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I hear ya! The hatred to me is surprising considering we have a really good team and the ab thing will work it’s way out one way Or another.

Missed tackles always drive me Crazy because those weee the easiest plays to have been made that could have changed the loss into a win!

The two things that bothered me most were resting Henry in the 3rd q and the playcalling in the 4th. And of course...not using Henry much in the 4th when he was our best weapon all day and we had two series to use him before that 2min.

The whole team gets coaching to the play calls to the execution was sloppy!

Most of these "fans" always seem to forget they wanted Steve McNair gone the year before we went to the superbowl because he was hurt and inconsistent. Sound familiar?
 
Most of these "fans" always seem to forget they wanted Steve McNair gone the year before we went to the superbowl because he was hurt and inconsistent. Sound familiar?
Mcnair played 16 games both years before going to the SB. That year he was on a 9-2 team with him as starter. That was his 3rd year as starter.

Despite mediocre number comparison, Mariota really isn’t anything like McNair.
 
Mcnair played 16 games both years before going to the SB. That year he was on a 9-2 team with him as starter. That was his 3rd year as starter.

Despite mediocre number comparison, Mariota really isn’t anything like McNair.

That has nothing to do with what I said
 
Bottom line, Mariota isn’t playing well. Especially in a contract year. He has regressed every season for the last 3 years. If we truly want to win now, he better shape up quick, or like it or not, Tannehill will be marching out there. I’m not saying he’s better or worse, but does it matter? We have no pass game...At some point, he needs to improve, or next man up. You have to go down trying, and we are 5 years deep.
 
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That has nothing to do with what I said
Your quote:
Most of these "fans" always seem to forget they wanted Steve McNair gone the year before we went to the superbowl because he was hurt and inconsistent. Sound familiar?
the year before we went to the SB (98’) Mcnair played all 16 games.
He got injured in 99’, the same year they went.

But furthermore, you added, “because he was hurt and inconsistent. Sound familiar?”
Unless you were making a comparison to a different QB than Mariota, it would seem like a comparison between the two. I added to your comparison.

If that was an unintentional comparison, my bad.
 
Was he told to do that from the coaches? I don't know but I was so mad about it. There was so many coaching blunders by Vrabel in that game. What is it about divisional games that makes him tighten up and lose his aggressiveness? Should have not punted it away and went for it on 4th on the 2nd to last possession.
Vrabel needs to shave the moustache, he's more focused on looking like a porn star than looking like a coach lol
 
Your quote:

the year before we went to the SB (98’) Mcnair played all 16 games.
He got injured in 99’, the same year they went.

But furthermore, you added, “because he was hurt and inconsistent. Sound familiar?”
Unless you were making a comparison to a different QB than Mariota, it would seem like a comparison between the two. I added to your comparison.

If that was an unintentional comparison, my bad.

I'm not comparing Mariota & McNair. Just most fans have no idea what they're talking about and it's been proven
 
Everything in this post is not true. But just keep making stuff up. Someone will believe you!
Outta curiosity, where do you rank Marcus as a QB, in your own eyes. What do you like about him? I just really wanna read your thoughts and your opinions on Marcus?
 
I'm not comparing Mariota & McNair. Just most fans have no idea what they're talking about and it's been proven
I think you were but I’ll agree that fans in general don’t know what they want.
Backseat GMing is easy apparently but I dont see a whole lot of posters admit to the times their moves were dead wrong..
 
So you get a quick out on 3rd and 2 and get 3 yards and stop the clock. You now have 10 seconds...no TO’s...the Colts are playing the sidelines and deep. How are you gonna advance the ball and still stop the clock (which we were taking 17 seconds on previous plays to do) with 10 seconds left and the Colts know you have to throw it into the end zone Or into the strength of their zone???

Do you think it was good coaching to only call middle of the field plays in the two min drive with no TO’s?

Ask Mariota. He called the spike. He said after it was the wrong decision at the time.
 
Since you think ‘I’m obviously wrong’...please explain how I’m wrong about any particular play you choose?

I’m waiting for your proof...
Listen. I'm not going to waste my time explaining all of what has already been said to you. It's there for you to see. That deep hitch or comeback to Davis was open, but Mariota is so risk averse and focused on his first read that he won't throw on anticipation. Did you look at the video of the first attempt of the game? Poor fundamentals and missed Walker.
 
Should we shop Mary b4 he gets injured and gets us nothing this offseason?

Hes still owed 18M on the year, that may be too rich for a QB needy team. But if we keep him out there hes 100% going to hurt himself

Nobody is going to give us jack for Mary. For one, he sucks. For another, he's vastly overpaid. For third, we are the only team that even thinks it is possible that he is any kind of franchise QB, and most even here no longer think that.

Why give anything for a guy who will be on the street in a few months?
 
I went from being super pissed at Mariota getting injured last year, to being in an "I don't care if he gets injured" mode this year. Of course I don't want to see him get injured, but it just wouldn't bother me one bit.

I'm seriously at the point to where I want to see what Tannehill can do. I don't think he will come in and light it up, but if he can do enough to stave off Mariota, then I consider it a win-win situation.

It's still early for me in the season for change, but if this continues, I may just turn into ABC JR.

This is exactly where I'm at. I'm done with mariota. I don't believe the team will extend him, and frankly, if they do, that may well be the nail in the coffin of my fan hood.

I would rather see what we have in tannehil. I think there's a better chance he's a serviceable starter than Mary at this point. And id like to see if he can be a bridge for our rookie next season.

If Mary gets carted off this year, the person in me will hate it for him. The fan in me won't give a damn. That book is closed as far as I'm concerned.
 
I hear ya! The hatred to me is surprising considering we have a really good team and the ab thing will work it’s way out one way Or another.

Missed tackles always drive me Crazy because those weee the easiest plays to have been made that could have changed the loss into a win!

The two things that bothered me most were resting Henry in the 3rd q and the playcalling in the 4th. And of course...not using Henry much in the 4th when he was our best weapon all day and we had two series to use him before that 2min.

The whole team gets coaching to the play calls to the execution was sloppy!

The hate is because we do have a good team, but it is being wasted with bad, timid qb play.

We are just throwing good money after bad hoping to recoup on a 2nd overall pick that is clearly a bust.

We don't even need a Brees Brady type. Average qb play would do. Marcus can't even deliver that.

A couple more weeks, and it's really gonna be ugly. They signed a capable qb to push Marcus. It's getting real close to time to make a change before its too late for this season.
 
Listen. I'm not going to waste my time explaining all of what has already been said to you. It's there for you to see. That deep hitch or comeback to Davis was open, but Mariota is so risk averse and focused on his first read that he won't throw on anticipation. Did you look at the video of the first attempt of the game? Poor fundamentals and missed Walker.

The problem with your posts is that you throw something untrue in to bolster your opinion instead of sticking to what's real.

You're not gonna waste your time explaining what's been said to me? You'll spend multiple posts insulting me but trying to have a discussion of what's really going on is a waste of your time? LOL!!!

I see. So you don't care what's real, you just want Mariota gone and will simply bash anyone who doesn't hate him? For made up reasons? AWESOME!:sarcasm:

Furthermore, you make comments about what I 'think' when clearly you don't know what I think. You came to the conclusion that everything I think about the Herndon plays is wrong...yet it's a waste of your time to discuss it?

Do you think players in a system in year 1 or 2 are going to go beyond the system? Not usually. Mariota may be in year 5 of his career but he's in game like 16 in this offense and even then, this offense is clearly not the same as last year. You complain - rightly so - about Mariota's fundamentals needing work...but then expect he's gonna go off script to change a progression? He's not there yet. Neither is Tannehill. On the comeback play, Humphries is his first read as they were trying to catch the defense napping with Humphries staying in to block the blitzer to leak out late. I've already explained this play. Is Davis open? Yes...but they are trying to hit Humphries and he threw him the ball. The defense was better on the play. We called a lot of little checkdown plays like this...screen to Humphries, screen to Davis, screen to Henry, etc

You claim he's so fixated on his first read he 'won't' throw with anticipation? He did so on the first play of the game. It was a bad throw, but he threw it with anticipation. He threw a few plays to Walker outside between zone defenders with anticipation. He threw a few sideline passes with anticipation. He threw a post to Davis with anticipation. So what are you talking about saying he won't throw with anticipation?

As I said, you mix the true things with untrue stuff to pile on and make him look worse. Stick with reality and you'll have credibility. When you make stuff up...not so much.

As I've said to ABC and 520 and others, there are enough things to accurately criticize Mariota for without making stuff up. Give it a shot!
 
The hate is because we do have a good team, but it is being wasted with bad, timid qb play.

We are just throwing good money after bad hoping to recoup on a 2nd overall pick that is clearly a bust.

We don't even need a Brees Brady type. Average qb play would do. Marcus can't even deliver that.

A couple more weeks, and it's really gonna be ugly. They signed a capable qb to push Marcus. It's getting real close to time to make a change before its too late for this season.
Is it so hard to believe that a QB should be held accountable for throwing for 154 in a pass happy league with our receiving talent? There have been some really poor QBs with really poor supporting casts who have done better than 154 yards and 1/10 on third down. There are bad games, but then there are inexcusable bad games in which the players remind you of every single weakness that they have and that they are what they are.

There is a reason why almost everyone is jumping off of his ship. That was a career breaking performance. Unbelievable that some people are trying to point the finger elsewhere. We were incompetent at passing the ball to proven pass catchers who were open on tape, and at moving the chains. We ran the ball well, held the opposing team to 19 points in spite of our defense living on the field, and our kicker wasn't perfect yet outperformed theirs by a wide margin.

Gut should have gone into politics. His filibustering is really beginning to show it's lack of substance.
 
The hate is because we do have a good team, but it is being wasted with bad, timid qb play.

We are just throwing good money after bad hoping to recoup on a 2nd overall pick that is clearly a bust.

We don't even need a Brees Brady type. Average qb play would do. Marcus can't even deliver that.

A couple more weeks, and it's really gonna be ugly. They signed a capable qb to push Marcus. It's getting real close to time to make a change before its too late for this season.

Didn't he deliver average to above average QB play in week 1?

I understand your frustration with Mariota. I really do! But we have bigger problems beyond just the QB. QB will work itself out. Mariota will provide the level of play they want or he won't. If he doesn't, at some point they'll give tannehill a shot and that will be that.

How come no one is hating on the wr's who dropped key passes? Jones setting us back on 2 first down run plays cuz he got knocked back into henry's path (and he just signed an extension), or Saffold who just got paid and has already given up more sacks this year than probably his last two seasons in LA, or 8 players on D who missed key tackles that would have made Indy punt, or gotten sacks on Jacoby B or Santos for missing a 45 yard kick? or the coaches for 'saving' henry when he was rolling so our offense could stall, and then not use him in the 4th quarter or a whole lot of coaching issues?

Mariota has been a problem...but if all of these other things aren't problems too...Mariota would be playing average to above average ball and this hatred goes away. Would still be an argument about whether he deserves an extension or is just a product of those around him....but we'd be in much better shape.

I hope we take these frustrations out on the Jags!!!
 
Ever since Mcnair the same thing always happends with our Qbs they are always middle of the pack (or worst) Qbs and to make things wosrt we always swicht offensive coordinator every year.

We need to get this right it's killing our franchise.

We give Mariota 5 years it's time move on.
 
Is it so hard to believe that a QB should be held accountable for throwing for 154 in a pass happy league with our receiving talent? There have been some really poor QBs with really poor supporting casts who have done better than 154 yards and 1/10 on third down. There are bad games, but then there are inexcusable bad games in which the players remind you of every single weakness that they have and that they are what they are.

There is a reason why almost everyone is jumping off of his ship. That was a career breaking performance. Unbelievable that some people are trying to point the finger elsewhere. We were incompetent at passing the ball to proven pass catchers who were open on tape, and at moving the chains. We ran the ball well, held the opposing team to 19 points in spite of our defense living on the field, and our kicker wasn't perfect yet outperformed theirs by a wide margin.

Gut should have gone into politics. His filibustering is really beginning to show it's lack of substance.

So should everyone be held accountable for their performance...or only blame the QB for everyone's mistakes? You keep absolving the wr's who dropped passes, the wr who ran the wrong route and messed up a big play, the wr who ran backwards to cost us a key first down, the poor blocking (run and pass - and I'm not talking about sacks that were Mariota's fault), not running henry more when he's ripping them up at a 5+ypc, and letting all the time run out on the playclock before we punted the ball when we were losing.

Your problem is you want to invoke the accountability thing, but you ignore it for everyone not named Mariota. Football is a team sport and you need the TEAM to win. I point out Mariota's fault and mistakes...I just don't make up stuff to pile on top of them and blame other people's mistakes on him.

So, should everyone be held accountable for their mistakes? Yes or no?
 
Ask Mariota. He called the spike. He said after it was the wrong decision at the time.

Mariota in every press conference takes the blame for his mistakes and everyone else's. He's gonna say that because that's the criticism coming down because it didn't work out. Even after Smith presser Mariota went in and tried to defend him and take blame off of him.

Listen to Smith talking about it and he says a lot of what I said ironically. if you run the play on 3rd down and don't get out of bounds (and every play we ran weren't sideline plays), you don't have time to spike it as there is probably 10 seconds or less left. That tells me this was how they planned to run the 2min drill...but it wasn't a good plan. And as Smith said in his presser, you have to look at all of the plays because they wasted a lot of time so you have to go all the way back to the first down play. He agreed he needed to call better plays!
 
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