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We all know (except Gut) that Mariota is not getting resigned. That’s a given. But if he wants to play out this season he better bring it tomorrow. Another clunker tomorrow and it’s impossible to trot him out there week 4. The receivers have to be getting tired of this crap. They never get looked at beyond 10 yards (even when they’re wide open) unless it’s a 1 read design shot play. It’s getting ridiculous.

Everything in this post is not true. But just keep making stuff up. Someone will believe you!
 
Everything in this post is not true. But just keep making stuff up. Someone will believe you!

Everything in my post is common knowledge. You’re the only one on this board who doesn’t believe it. And I’m fine with that. This thread is littered with GIF’s of 8 missing wide open receivers. And even more examples on Twitter that aren’t hard to find. And if you think the WR’s aren’t getting fed up with it, then idk what tell you.
 
The Jets would need to make a move THIS week. Some fans think they can contend for a playoff spot. I seriously don't! Gase has all the power so he will make dumb moves if he wants it. But it's not a smart play for the Jets. What's their best case scenario? Trade for Mariota and then he comes in and lights it up for them in a different offense, doesn't get hurt, and elevates that offense for 6-8 weeks and then Darnold comes back with very little experience and immediately lights it up?

That's a lot more wishful thinking than fans here hoping Mariota improves here.

That'd be silly!

Of course, if you want to get rid of Mariota and are hoping he gets traded...Steelers, Saints, and Jags lost their QB's too. If Mariota rips up the Jags and Minshew is bad...Mariota and Adoree for Jalen?

I'm frankly surprised we haven't seen the Giants trade Eli to the Jags!

Oh I’m not married to any scenario, I’m just positing a possibility in response that there ARE scenarios out there in which Mariota could be moved.

In my mind it’s simple now.

1. Mariota improves the remainder of the games gets a very minor extension.
2. Mariota doesn’t get an extension (injury or otherwise) and hits the market end of this year.
3. Mariota gets moved and Tannehill finishes year.
4. If #3 and we make playoffs, Tannehill gets extension.

Tannehill being here is a reflection of JRob’s confidence in 2-4 and lack of confidence in #1.
 
Everything in my post is common knowledge. You’re the only one on this board who doesn’t believe it. And I’m fine with that. This thread is littered with GIF’s of 8 missing wide open receivers. And even more examples on Twitter that aren’t hard to find. And if you think the WR’s aren’t getting fed up with it, then idk what tell you.

It's common knowledge that I'm the only person who thinks Mariota will be re-signed? Where does that come from? go ahead and quote me on this.

I'll wait...

It's common knowledge that Mariota can't read a defense and can only make 1 read passing plays? Considering there is ample evidence to prove otherwise during his career, you might want to choose more carefully who you repeat as you are now repeating nonsense. This might be a common misconception of those who don't like Mariota, but it's wrong.

8 missing wide open wr's? In which game? Were those guys the primary read? Or is this one of those things where you show Corey Davis wide open after his defender fell down...but Mariota was already in the act of throwing the ball somewhere else? I looked over the plays Mike Herndon posted if that's what you're referring to and happy to discuss any of them.

Are the receivers getting frustrated at themselves for dropping passes and running the wrong route? Should the QB get frustrated when guys give up free rushers to crush the qb? Should Mariota get frustrated when he has some pass plays open but he can't get them the ball because we gave up too much pressure?

Should the offense get frustrated at the coach for going away from the plays that were working and go back to some plays that were not? Should the team be frustrated that Vrabel inexplicably let the playclock run down when we were gonna punt (while we were losing and needed to save as much time as possible)?

Lots of frustration to go around.

But a lot of what you think is common knowledge...isn't. Especially when it's wrong.
 
Mariota did clock the ball on 3 and 2 w/ 16 seconds left. OL didn’t have anything to do with that.
 
Oh I’m not married to any scenario, I’m just positing a possibility in response that there ARE scenarios out there in which Mariota could be moved.

In my mind it’s simple now.

1. Mariota improves the remainder of the games gets a very minor extension.
2. Mariota doesn’t get an extension (injury or otherwise) and hits the market end of this year.
3. Mariota gets moved and Tannehill finishes year.
4. If #3 and we make playoffs, Tannehill gets extension.

Tannehill being here is a reflection of JRob’s confidence in 2-4 and lack of confidence in #1.

I agree but I think that ONLY starts with 1 of 2 things. He gets hurt for a few weeks and then tannehill comes in and plays very well...or Mariota plays poorly (for how long is up to GM/owner how long a leash he has) for some period of time.

I don't think other teams are dying to trade for him and I think Brave is probably correct. Most likely scenario would be around week 8. mariota's contract is then small enough and a team thinking they need him for the stretch run. But then fewer teams will need him too.

We'll see what happens. But in the meantime...we need to obliterate the Jags!
 
Mariota did clock the ball on 3 and 2 w/ 16 seconds left. OL didn’t have anything to do with that.

So let's play it out. The 2nd down play was a 7-8yd passing play and from snap to spike took 17 seconds. So let's say instead of spiking the ball on 3rd down, we run the slants play then for a similar 7 yard gain and we don't get a chance to spike the ball since there isn't enough time left. At least with the spike, Smith had an opportunity to dial up a play that gave us a shot at 10-15 yards and got us out of bounds for a realistic fg try. Why run slants there when there isn't enough time!

The playcalling the last 8minutes on offense was not good. Especially the 2min drive! The first play of the two minute drive was a 4 yd pass to DW who wasn't close to the sideline. That also ran off about 17 seconds. That's bad playcalling and bad clock management by the coaching staff.

But those play calls were all made by the QB, right?

As I said, plenty of blame to go around. I don't have as much problem with the spike as I do that the playcalls were bad and the spike was useless since it didn't result in a better playcall. You don't like that and some of Mariota's other play during the game, I get it and agree as I said in my assessment of the game. But there was a lot of players making mistakes. We need 1...maybe 2 plays to be made and had about 15 chances to make them. No one did on offense, defense, or special teams. And throw the coaching staff in there as well!
 
So let's play it out. The 2nd down play was a 7-8yd passing play and from snap to spike took 17 seconds. So let's say instead of spiking the ball on 3rd down, we run the slants play then for a similar 7 yard gain and we don't get a chance to spike the ball since there isn't enough time left. At least with the spike, Smith had an opportunity to dial up a play that gave us a shot at 10-15 yards and got us out of bounds for a realistic fg try. Why run slants there when there isn't enough time!

The playcalling the last 8minutes on offense was not good. Especially the 2min drive! The first play of the two minute drive was a 4 yd pass to DW who wasn't close to the sideline. That also ran off about 17 seconds. That's bad playcalling and bad clock management by the coaching staff.

But those play calls were all made by the QB, right?

As I said, plenty of blame to go around. I don't have as much problem with the spike as I do that the playcalls were bad and the spike was useless since it didn't result in a better playcall. You don't like that and some of Mariota's other play during the game, I get it and agree as I said in my assessment of the game. But there was a lot of players making mistakes. We need 1...maybe 2 plays to be made and had about 15 chances to make them. No one did on offense, defense, or special teams. And throw the coaching staff in there as well!

Mariota even said it was a bad decision on his part. I don’t want to debate it, but the summary is this. You spike on 3 and 2 rather than having a quick out or even a design run to the sideline for 3 yards and you spend MAYBE 5 seconds. You either have 4 and 2 with 10 seconds or you have 1 and 10 with 10 seconds. The latter you get a chance to advance the ball further before the kick. With the latter, if you fail to get the 1st down, you have another shot at it to get the first and advance the ball.

Spiking it on 3 and 2 was the wrong choice. And Mariota even said so.
 
Mariota did clock the ball on 3 and 2 w/ 16 seconds left. OL didn’t have anything to do with that.
Was he told to do that from the coaches? I don't know but I was so mad about it. There was so many coaching blunders by Vrabel in that game. What is it about divisional games that makes him tighten up and lose his aggressiveness? Should have not punted it away and went for it on 4th on the 2nd to last possession.
 
Was he told to do that from the coaches? I don't know but I was so mad about it. There was so many coaching blunders by Vrabel in that game. What is it about divisional games that makes him tighten up and lose his aggressiveness? Should have not punted it away and went for it on 4th on the 2nd to last possession.

He was not. Mariota said he decided to do it. He also said it was the wrong thing to do, so at least he owned it.
 
Everything in my post is common knowledge. You’re the only one on this board who doesn’t believe it. And I’m fine with that. This thread is littered with GIF’s of 8 missing wide open receivers. And even more examples on Twitter that aren’t hard to find. And if you think the WR’s aren’t getting fed up with it, then idk what tell you.
He won't look at them. They've been posted and @Gut is like helen fucking keller.
 
He was not. Mariota said he decided to do it. He also said it was the wrong thing to do, so at least he owned it.
I'm happy he understands it was wrong. I just don't like the fact that in year 5, he's still making those kinds of mistakes.

Personally, I still hope he pulls it all together and has a great season. I'm just not expecting it.
 
He won't look at them. They've been posted and @Gut is like helen ****ing keller.

Wow! Is that all you have to make your point???

That’s funny! I’ve already discussed all the plays Herndon had on Twitter from the last game. So obviously I’ve looked at them. Have you?

When all you have are insults...you’re not winning any debates. So put up a play and let’s discuss it if you’re so sure you’re right!
 
Just stop it. The LB was shot out of a rifle and Humphries had to stop his momentum and catch Mariota's Charmin soft lob. Humphries has been one of the leaders in YAC before arriving here. If anyone could have evaded that defender, he could have. There was no chance. You're losing credibility as you continue to point the finger elsewhere.

Did you READ my post? So you’re saying Humphries stopped to catch the pass? Wrong!

So it’s the qbs fault Humphries couldn’t beat a LB and if he can’t...then no one could have???

Lol!!!

You think I’m losing credibility when you’re the one just making stuff up left and right?

SMH
 
Wow! Is that all you have to make your point???

That’s funny! I’ve already discussed all the plays Herndon had on Twitter from the last game. So obviously I’ve looked at them. Have you?

When all you have are insults...you’re not winning any debates. So put up a play and let’s discuss it if you’re so sure you’re right!
Well, you're obviously wrong in discussing the ones by Herndon. Why bring in more? They're all over Twitter of him taking sacks, missing reads, he missed an open Walker on the first pass of the game...

If you can't see it, helen keller it is.
 
Mariota even said it was a bad decision on his part. I don’t want to debate it, but the summary is this. You spike on 3 and 2 rather than having a quick out or even a design run to the sideline for 3 yards and you spend MAYBE 5 seconds. You either have 4 and 2 with 10 seconds or you have 1 and 10 with 10 seconds. The latter you get a chance to advance the ball further before the kick. With the latter, if you fail to get the 1st down, you have another shot at it to get the first and advance the ball.

Spiking it on 3 and 2 was the wrong choice. And Mariota even said so.

So you get a quick out on 3rd and 2 and get 3 yards and stop the clock. You now have 10 seconds...no TO’s...the Colts are playing the sidelines and deep. How are you gonna advance the ball and still stop the clock (which we were taking 17 seconds on previous plays to do) with 10 seconds left and the Colts know you have to throw it into the end zone Or into the strength of their zone???

Do you think it was good coaching to only call middle of the field plays in the two min drive with no TO’s?
 
Well, you're obviously wrong in discussing the ones by Herndon. Why bring in more? They're all over Twitter of him taking sacks, missing reads, he missed an open Walker on the first pass of the game...

If you can't see it, helen keller it is.

Since you think ‘I’m obviously wrong’...please explain how I’m wrong about any particular play you choose?

I’m waiting for your proof...
 
The missed tackles is what pissed me off most about this last game , Mariota’s lack of accuracy was second . If we get another quarterback be it Tanne this year or someone next year I sure hope they’re a can’t miss Mahomes or Watson type because qb’s have different flaws . We could get a downfield thrower who throws picks in key moments . Great qb’s are kinda rare , we need to figure out how to win right now and stop being so negative. I swear I feel like these hateful vibes probably been affecting this team for years and this is the worst I can remember. Even worse than the Whisenhunt era. Lol
 
The missed tackles is what pissed me off most about this last game , Mariota’s lack of accuracy was second . If we get another quarterback be it Tanne this year or someone next year I sure hope they’re a can’t miss Mahomes or Watson type because qb’s have different flaws . We could get a downfield thrower who throws picks in key moments . Great qb’s are kinda rare , we need to figure out how to win right now and stop being so negative. I swear I feel like these hateful vibes probably been affecting this team for years and this is the worst I can remember. Even worse than the Whisenhunt era. Lol

I hear ya! The hatred to me is surprising considering we have a really good team and the ab thing will work it’s way out one way Or another.

Missed tackles always drive me Crazy because those weee the easiest plays to have been made that could have changed the loss into a win!

The two things that bothered me most were resting Henry in the 3rd q and the playcalling in the 4th. And of course...not using Henry much in the 4th when he was our best weapon all day and we had two series to use him before that 2min.

The whole team gets coaching to the play calls to the execution was sloppy!
 
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