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steverife said:
I don't even think it is shade.

It is just reality. It is a relatively young franchise and a destination city, so you get a lot of other fans. If you are 28 or so and starting to have the time and money to go to games, your first NFL memories as a kid didn't include the Titans. Hockey is different because there wasn't much of a hockey presence in TN, so they didn't have to flip fans from other teams.

Everyone here talks about it and the team was 4-4 at home and are now 6-3 on the road. Lack of home field advantage doesn't mean the same to the Titans that it means to other teams.

Enjoy the moment and stop trying to be mad.
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Well, when it first began, the first few season's the stadium opening, it was in fact a huge home field advantage and the Tits played like it. If memory serves they started 13-0 or something like that the first couple of seasons. Then, when the team went into decline, PSL owners didn't renew...thus began the front office practice of selling to brokers. Please note, I am not blaming the front office, but, if you are going to blame the fans for NOT showing up, at least tell the entire truth of the matter. It could be that Vrabel doesn't even know about that history as he was busy playing then.
 
steverife said:
I mean, I share an office with 20 dudes that talk nothing but football - 5 Cowboys fans, 3 Patriots fans, 2 Giants fans, 1 Texans fan, 1 Steelers fan, 1 Colts fan, 2 Broncos fans, 1 Raiders fan, 2 Saints fans, 2 Titans fans.

We pull from a smaller pool than other teams.
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I grew up a KC fan....
 
HurrayTitans! said:
But to GoT’s point, those seats are already bought, then resold/given away to the visitors or just whoever.
Definitely not reserved for titans fans and the actual owners of those PSLs should take personal blame for comments like this one and the lack of real home crowd advantage.
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So, again, Vrabel's right. Even home games have a LOT of rival fans.

Vrabel is right and no one should argue it otherwise.
 
Front office needs a “fan loyalty” rewards program. Frozen season tix prices, desirable perks like field passes/autographed merchandise, etc on point per cumulative dollar spent basis. Preds have that part right.
I’ve dumped so much into titans it’s ridiculous. And then they LOSE the games at home they’re supposed to win. It jades interest in going to the games. They win crazy unexpected games when folks sell their tix to recoup some of the OUTRAGEOUS ticket prices. And then they want to question fan loyalty.
 
Big TT said:
Why is Vrabel right tho?
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this board will hate on the Titans fans for not going to games then will also not go to any games, can’t really take them seriously.

when you go to games and see how fans come from all over like California Canada Mexico Scotland then you can appreciate it. Vrabel just has no idea cus he doesn’t get a chance to see the fans or interact with them. Amy was there last week she would never say something like that, she knows how passionate we are as a fan base!
 
RTH said:
The truth hurts sometimes... still the truth.
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The TRUTH is the organization sells to brokers. FACT...please note I am NOT placing blame or saying the front office shouldn't have sold to brokers...simply stating the FACT of what happened. At the beginning there were only about 5000, if memory serves, single day seats available because the fan base DID in fact buy up PSL's. When the team on the field SUCKED post 2003 season until 2016 (12 seasons with a combined record during that time of 81 and 111 for a winning percentage of .422). I was one of those FIRST PSL owners, I made the trips to the games for the first 15 seasons...including MEMPHIS and Vandy stadium. So, forgive me I refuse to accept, for the fan base, the total blame in this.
 
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Big TT said:
Well, when it first began, the first few season's the stadium opening, it was in fact a huge home field advantage and the Tits played like it. If memory serves they started 13-0 or something like that the first couple of seasons. Then, when the team went into decline, PSL owners didn't renew...thus began the front office practice of selling to brokers. Please note, I am not blaming the front office, but, if you are going to blame the fans for NOT showing up, at least tell the entire truth of the matter. It could be that Vrabel doesn't even know about that history as he was busy playing then.
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You expect Vrabel to say all that when asked how they are going to overcome playing at Baltimore?
 
steverife said:
You expect Vrabel to say all that when asked how they are going to overcome playing at Baltimore?
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Don't care what he says...and really not sure what home fan ticket sales has to do with the team traveling to ratbird city this week.
 
Does anyone know how the nfl divides ticket sales amongst the 32 teams?

Do the Titans benefit financially from fans traveling?

I know the nfl has revenue sharing, but im not sure whats included in all of that.

I do know if I buy a Derrick Henry jersey through nflshop.com Im actually sending each team 1/32 of that sale. So are tickets subject to that same thing?
 
steverife said:
I mean, I share an office with 20 dudes that talk nothing but football - 5 Cowboys fans, 3 Patriots fans, 2 Giants fans, 1 Texans fan, 1 Steelers fan, 1 Colts fan, 2 Broncos fans, 1 Raiders fan, 2 Saints fans, 2 Titans fans.

We pull from a smaller pool than other teams.
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What I see hurting attendance is the age of the Titans. Nashville had NFL fans prior to the team showing up 21 years ago. Plus I have often heard thru this forum many of the residents of Nashville are not from Nashville, hence why theyre not Titan fans

Are all those people expected to attend Titan games....
 
RTH said:
Um, he's right.

We talk about it on here ALL THE TIME.

The stadium is typically filled with a LOT of visiting fans.

You can call it shade to the fanbase or take it to heart, but he is exactly right.
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Not only that but fans complain it’s about losing. Well I flew in for the Jacksonville game. We smoked them and the stadium was half empty by mid 4th quarter.

Complain about losing, but smoking a division rival, still gonna leave early.
 
Riverman said:
Front office needs a “fan loyalty” rewards program. Frozen season tix prices, desirable perks like field passes/autographed merchandise, etc on point per cumulative dollar spent basis. Preds have that part right.
I’ve dumped so much into titans it’s ridiculous. And then they LOSE the games at home they’re supposed to win. It jades interest in going to the games. They win crazy unexpected games when folks sell their tix to recoup some of the OUTRAGEOUS ticket prices. And then they want to question fan loyalty.
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From an outsider perspective. I live in Houston and can tell you it’s way more expensive to go to a game here than in Nashville. I don’t think Titans tickets are outrageous at all.
 
Big TT said:
The TRUTH is the organization sells to brokers. FACT...please note I am NOT placing blame or saying the front office shouldn't have sold to brokers...simply stating the FACT of what happened. At the beginning there were only about 5000, if memory serves, single day seats available because the fan base DID in fact buy up PSL's. When the team on the field SUCKED post 2003 season until 2016 (12 seasons with a combined record during that time of 81 and 111 for a winning percentage of .422). ... So, forgive me I refuse to accept, for the fan base, the total blame in this.
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This is dead on. The Coliseum was rocking from Opening day in 99 until about 2004. That's is when the on field product started a decline when the front office chose not to resign Jevon Kearse. Then, over the next 5 years, the front office continued to be cheap and not resign veterans (Derek Mason, Samari Rolle, eventually Keith Bulluck). The straw that broke the camel's back was when they locked Steve McNair out of the practice facility for fear he could injure himself and they would be on the hook for his salary. The next year, when the Titans played the Ravens, McNair was the Ravens QB, and Rolle and Mason were also on the Ravens. The team drafted trash, whiffed on QB with VY and Locker, and was terrible for a good 10-12 years (there was one year with Kerry Collins as QB where they had a number 1 seed in the playoffs, but lost to the Ravens).

A "new" team (to Nashville) that had early success, in a publicly financed stadium, subsequently sucked for over a decade, and , with no local history, the fans got fed up with losing and seemingly no end to the losing in sight (couldn't draft well, couldn't/wouldn't attract any significant free agents). With the New GM Robinson, that is slowly but surely turning around. But, they will have to sustain competitiveness (at a higher clip than yearly 9-7's) for a good period of time, and land a legit starting QB. Is Tannehill the answer? I do not know. I wouldn't mind signing Tannehill to a 3 year deal, and draft and develop Jalen Hurts in the 2nd or 3rd round if he is available. That would go a long way to sustaining competitiveness and bringing the fans back. But, the front office selling unsold PSL's to brokers is greed that is undermining the team's goals civically and business wise. You almost would rather have empty seats if the coach is complaining about opposing fans at home games during the playoffs.
 
Dman5TX said:
From an outsider perspective. I live in Houston and can tell you it’s way more expensive to go to a game here than in Nashville. I don’t think Titans tickets are outrageous at all.
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I don't know how the Texans treat their season ticket holders. Titans give a box of junk periodically and discount bottled water and pretzels to $4. That's it.

Anyway- the market dictates ticket prices. And if the seats are empty or being sold at a loss by season ticket holders- the tix ARE overpriced for the market. Texans probably have a higher demand- climate controlled stadium helps take weather away and the Texans have been winning and in playoffs for a while.
 
Riverman said:
I don't know how the Texans treat their season ticket holders. Titans give a box of junk periodically and discount bottled water and pretzels to $4. That's it.

Anyway- the market dictates ticket prices. And if the seats are empty or being sold at a loss by season ticket holders- the tix ARE overpriced for the market. Texans probably have a higher demand- climate controlled stadium helps take weather away and the Texans have been winning and in playoffs for a while.
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Im not sure what the season ticket holders get either but I would imagine it is more than that. I’d bet they get some houston rodeo passes (happens at the stadium) or something along those lines. There are tons of events that happen at NRG throughout the year and I’m sure they get first dibs or access to them.

I thought you were talking about general ticket prices. Not the overall price for season ticket holders. That I can’t argue with. Carry on!
 
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