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We basically have to spend premium dollars on every position around Mariota to get him to put up mediocre stats. What does that tell you? Possibly that he doesn’t elevate the players around him as much as he should?

Look what Brady, Rodgers, Luck, Mahomes does with no names playing WR. Mary needs 4 All Pros to be mediocre. And 2 all pro Tackles. Hmmmm

An all star cast?
 
We basically have to spend premium dollars on every position around Mariota to get him to put up mediocre stats. What does that tell you? Possibly that he doesn’t elevate the players around him as much as he should?

Look what Brady, Rodgers, Luck, Mahomes does with no names playing WR. Mary needs 4 All Pros to be mediocre. And 2 all pro Tackles. Hmmmm
Nobody said Mariota was as good as Brady, Rogers, Luck or Mahomes
 
Bottom line Mariota has be able to throw the ball and our receivers have to catch the ball.
And yes better players make more plays!
 
We basically have to spend premium dollars on every position around Mariota to get him to put up mediocre stats. What does that tell you? Possibly that he doesn’t elevate the players around him as much as he should?

Look what Brady, Rodgers, Luck, Mahomes does with no names playing WR. Mary needs 4 All Pros to be mediocre. And 2 all pro Tackles. Hmmmm

Gronk, Kelce, TY Hilton, Watkins, Hill ... all pale in comparison to the mighty Taywon Taylor and Jonnu smith!!
 
Titans had exactly ZERO all Pros on offense last year btw ... not sure where you get 4 from
 
"Mahomes did it with no names and MM had all pros!!"

Except Mohomes had an all pro RT, TE and RB last year lol ... MM had none
 
"Luck has no name WRs!!"

What about that guy who has put up over 1000 yards in 5 of 7 seasons?
 
We basically have to spend premium dollars on every position around Mariota to get him to put up mediocre stats. What does that tell you? Possibly that he doesn’t elevate the players around him as much as he should?

Look what Brady, Rodgers, Luck, Mahomes does with no names playing WR. Mary needs 4 All Pros to be mediocre. And 2 all pro Tackles. Hmmmm
Who on our offense are you referring to as an All Pro? Our vastly over rated LT?
 
Funny how a few posters turned a "ceiling" thread into a hate thread but whatever. Good reminder. What is Mariota's ceiling this year?
 
5 years?

Last year was a new system, And the only players he had chemistry with (Walker and Matthews) were taken away. He hasn’t really been given an opportunity to build chemistry with anyone yet.

Now, hopefully he can hit the ground running with Davis and Walker this year and have some chemistry built up. But he wasn’t afforded that last year.
Yes. 4 years and entering a 5th. Every team has to deal with adversity...Jesus the excuses on this board........
 
And funny how average players become great with good quarterback play......Nobody is saying Mariota is trash, but he is very inconsistent and not healthy. To sit here and act like he has been “great” is ridiculous. He has had plenty put around him to succeed. The simple fact that anyone on this board and the ownership/front office are questioning what he is entering year 5 tells you everything you need to know. At some point, you can’t always point the blame elsewhere.
 
Our talent has gotten better, but yet Mariota’s production has gotten worse.

That tells you it isn’t a supporting cast problem.

I remember people here last summer at this time we’re talking about Titans WR core being easily top 10 in the league. Now we’re back to trash players?
 
Our talent has gotten better, but yet Mariota’s production has gotten worse.

That tells you it isn’t a supporting cast problem.

I remember people here last summer at this time we’re talking about Titans WR core being easily top 10 in the league. Now we’re back to trash players?
No one thought we were top 10 at WR

In fact, we were top 5 most poverty WRs

You Tajae Sharpe fans thinking ridiculous things
 
And funny how average players become great with good quarterback play......Nobody is saying Mariota is trash, but he is very inconsistent and not healthy. To sit here and act like he has been “great” is ridiculous. He has had plenty put around him to succeed. The simple fact that anyone on this board and the ownership/front office are questioning what he is entering year 5 tells you everything you need to know. At some point, you can’t always point the blame elsewhere.

No one has said MM is great. I do not believe that MM is great.

It was said he had an “all pro” supporting cast. That is inaccurate.

And the “5 years” was in reference to building chemistry with players. My point is no one he was throwing the ball to last year had any time to develop a chemistry with MM.

We don’t have a player outside of DW (who was out all year) that has spent many years with MM. hopefully CD can be that guy this year though ... so not sure how chemistry could be expected last year.

If you want to say MM isn’t good enough, lacks pocket awareness, lacks confidence, hasn’t progressed enough, is injury prone ... that’s fine. I get that argument. Doesn’t mean that I fully agree, but I understand those feelings.

But to act like we had an all pro supporting cast is crazy
 
Our talent has gotten better, but yet Mariota’s production has gotten worse.

That tells you it isn’t a supporting cast problem.

I remember people here last summer at this time we’re talking about Titans WR core being easily top 10 in the league. Now we’re back to trash players?

Key words “last summer” ... on paper last summer our receiving core looked a lot different than what was reality.

In the summer Matthews was coming off a solid season and we expected more. We expected DW to continue to be great ... neither of those guys were available and that completely changed the outlook on the receiving corps

Instead we were left playing guys like Nick Williams. Doesn’t matter who we had on paper in the summer... matters who was on the field on sundays
 
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