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Read again, I'm talking about his first 5-6 seasons when he looked like trash. From 2005-2010 he peaked at a 5-5 record.
I’ll start my rebuttal here with w/l are not a QB stat.
Anyone who says otherwise is a complete and total fool.

Second, while injuries are comparable (sort of), smith played 1 16 game season in his first 5, 2 10 game seasons (both better statistically than MM’s last 2 years) and 2 7 game seasons with a year off for injury.
He returned in 11 with his best season in SF.

While MM has had weapon after weapon either drafted or FA signed for him to still suck, can you recall the weapons smith had? Gore is it that I remember. Maybe Vernon Davis and Crabtree?
 
They either let Mariota be himself by scrambling and running or they play Tannehill.What’s to be lost by him getting injured now?
All this don’t run and take a hit and don’t throw it unless it’s a 100% certainty safety 1st stuff is killing the way he should be playing!!
 
Mariota is giving me strong "Alex Smith 5 years in" vibes here, where you have a guy who at least has the tools to be an OK player just goes through an endless parade of offensive coaches and weak rosters in a short period of time and comes out a mess.

Mariota hasn't played with a single good wide receiver, and the guys that left all looked like scrubs on other team so it wasn't just the QB. Walker is like a B+ player who usually starts like 10 games. The pass protection has been atrocious 2 years running. He could very well be a lost cause but a stable organization might have actually developed him into at least a plausible NFL starter.

Maybe he's a good reclamation project for another team like Alex Smith was with Harbaugh and then Reid.

Chicken and egg argument. Is mariota not good because he hasn't had good wr, or are they not good because they've been playing with him?
 
So how do the 17 people who voted that he will turn it around and get a new contract feel now?
 
They either let Mariota be himself by scrambling and running or they play Tannehill.What’s to be lost by him getting injured now?
All this don’t run and take a hit and don’t throw it unless it’s a 100% certainty safety 1st stuff is killing the way he should be playing!!
How do you know that's a coaching issue and not a Mariota issue? I seriously doubt the coaches have been instructing him to play like a scared little biatch and take a bunch of sacks.
 
How do you know that's a coaching issue and not a Mariota issue? I seriously doubt the coaches have been instructing him to play like a scared little biatch and take a bunch of sacks.
At this point - going off the QBs we've had over the years, including McNair - I'm almost convinced this organization doesn't want to develop players, much less QBs.

There are fans and, seemingly, people in charge that see the NCAA as a farm league. Very few players come in fully ready for the NFL. But too often, they are expected to have the tools and ability.

Colleges have no interest in preparing a player for the NFL... they have them a limited time to win NOW. So, whatever issues a player has, they mask them and try to win around them instead of attempting to correct it.
 
We should cut all 17 of the people who voted Pro Mary in this poll.

AND START MARY SUNDAY.
 
It is very hard to deny the FACT that Corey Davis looks like an entirely different player when Tannehill is the qb. Both in last weeks game and the preseason.
 
It is very hard to deny the FACT that Corey Davis looks like an entirely different player when Tannehill is the qb. Both in last weeks game and the preseason.
We'll feel completely different about the offense when we have a QB who can pass.
 
At least he is finally taking accountability for it. He said "that is on me." That is a start. Unfortunately I still didn't hear any passion or fire from him. It appears there is just zero confidence left in that dude and that is stopping him from seeing/doing what he needs to do. I wouldn't be surprised if he pulls and early retirement like Locker.
 
Apologies to Alex Smith for comparing the two of them three years ago.

With the 45th Pick of the 2016 Draft: Alabama RB Derrick Henry

Good lord. You guys try so hard to be dismissive of an opinion that does not adhere to the board narrative.

Alex Smith is a mobile guy who excels in the short and intermediate passing games while struggling with the deep ball. Is it that far of a stretch to say Mariota will end up being a solid but unspectacular QB?

The reason I "worry" that he will be more Alex Smith than Aaron Rogers is because the solid but unspectacular QB is the worst kind to have. Good enough to get you to the playoffs but not good enough to do anything once you're there. Good enough to make you want to extend his contract, but then you're stuck in NFL purgatory. A tease that maybe you'll get over the hump, but in the end you just end up spinning your wheels in the first round of the playoffs.

It wasn't an insult to Mariota, but to say that I am "sold" on him would be an outright lie. I am hopeful.
 
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