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The job of the OC isn’t just calling the plays. He’s responsible for creating and installing the game plans and this scheme. He has done a terrible job of putting our teams best playmakers in a position to make plays. He has consistently shown a lack of awareness when it comes to exploiting our opponents weaknesses or even attempting to get favorable matchups.

Totally disagree. I've seen more players schemed open than in the last few years. Especially in the red zone. He's had great TE outlet routes. We've also had perfectly timed screens that fell victim to passes in the dirt or drops. Tannehill finally took some shots down field last week too.

His biggest flaws have been on forcing the run with Lewis and some predictably timed play action passes. I wonder how many of the latter should have been checked at the line.

What else can you expect from a first time play caller dealing with a Swiss cheese offensive line and a timid and inaccurate passer. If we take off the blinders we'd see he's going a good job. Good, not great, but no one is perfect. I'd give him a B+. He's definitely earned his job

 

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The OL is still the biggest obstacle for our offense to over come....no OC or QB is going to look good when the OL is continually making penalties that put you in long yardage situation or causing nice gains to be negated....and besides the penalties the mental mistakes that the OL are making that are causing plays to be blown up...

on the Poe sack this week we had Lewan Saffold and Douglas against Poe and an outside rusher...Saffold gives Douglas no help and Poe destroys Tanny... what is an OC/QB to do when the line plays like garbage.

When Tanny has had time he has been very accurate with the ball. I really believe that this weekend the OL is going to have their best game of the year and our offense will get the job done.

That’s a good point about the OL, but how much of the OL issues are a result of poor scheming and coaching? On paper, this OL should be light years better than they look.

 

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Everyone knows Rogers is the HC and OC

Um, i think you are thinking of peyton....

 

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Um, i think you are thinking of peyton....

Um, Peyton is retired

 

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Gawdam guys


I’m the official farewell threader around here.

y’all devaluing my official farewell threads

Only thing you are “officially” is fattest member on the site.

 

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That’s a good point about the OL, but how much of the OL issues are a result of poor scheming and coaching? On paper, this OL should be light years better than they look.

having Douglas and Davis as starters does not look very good to me on paper. Lewan has been a penalty machine since returning and I'm pretty sure that isn't on the OC and Saffold has been a turnstile...when you pay a guy huge FA money you expect him to be able to win most 1 on 1 battles

I certainly do question the ability of the OL coach because his unit is way under performing....I don't place that blame on the OC.

Now if we have a mismatch like we did years ago when Whisenhunt had Poutassi blocking JJ Watt 1 on 1 without help then that certainly is bad scheming and coaching malpractice....I just haven't seen situations like that this yr....the OL is just horrible at handing off any sort of stunt.

If the OL plays better the QB will look better and thus the OC will look better...as long as we aren't killing drives with fumbles by our RBs and INTs off the hands of our own recievers

 

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Only think you are “officially” is fattest member on the site.

Why don’t you think before you type the wrong words lil guy

 

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Totally disagree. I've seen more players schemed open than in the last few years. Especially in the red zone. He's had great TE outlet routes. We've also had perfectly timed screens that fell victim to passes in the dirt or drops. Tannehill finally took some shots down field last week too.

His biggest flaws have been on forcing the run with Lewis and some predictably timed play action passes. I wonder how many of the latter should have been checked at the line.

What else can you expect from a first time play caller dealing with a Swiss cheese offensive line and a timid and inaccurate passer. If we take off the blinders we'd see he's going a good job. Good, not great, but no one is perfect. I'd give him a B+. He's definitely earned his job

I’ll agree with you partly about the red zone. He’s done a decent job of using Tajae Sharpe in the red zone, but I’ve also seen a lot of bone head plays like a fade route to the corner of the end zone with Humphries, or having Kalif Raymond as your target in a critical situation. 26th in total offense is not worthy of a B+

 

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Fast forward this video below to 6:40 and you'll see what I'm talking about lmao. You sound to much like Vrabel. The issue is art smith, not Mariota not tanny. Mariota has proven he can win big games in this league against good teams. Heck we would have made it to 2 straight playoffs had they let him play week 17 last year

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I see two open receivers with an easy first down to Walker. Tanny didn't pull the trigger. From trying to gauge his eyes, I'd say he was looking for the TD up top... which may have been open with more time. That is an good play and an easy first down. Receivers were schemed open before the pressure got there. He had options. This is an execution problem.

 

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I’ll agree with you partly about the red zone. He’s done a decent job of using Tajae Sharpe in the red zone, but I’ve also seen a lot of bone head plays like a fade route to the corner of the end zone with Humphries, or having Kalif Raymond as your target in a critical situation. 26th in total offense is not worthy of a B+

Quoting the ranking tells me that you're looking at the execution/ results. That is fine. Our offense has been a burdeon on our D. No argument there. But that is not an indication of the job Art is doing calling plays. That is what we are discussing. I'm seeing good plays, good timing, and poor execution. Didn't Kalif get us the first down? I'd actually like to see him play more.

I don't recall the fade to Hump, but if that is the case, maybe you can say it was a bad call. Overall, he's impressed me.

 

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Quoting the ranking tells me that you're looking at the execution/ results. That is fine. Our offense has been a burdeon on our D. No argument there. But that is not an indication of the job Art is doing calling plays. That is what we are discussing. I'm seeing good plays, good timing, and poor execution. Didn't Kalif get us the first down? I'd actually like to see him play more.

I don't recall the fade to Hump, but if that is the case, maybe you can say it was a bad call. Overall, he's impressed me.

I’m referring to when he was targeting Kalif and threw the pick. No reason at all that he should have been on the field at that critical of a moment.

 

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BALLS

You wish

 

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Um, Peyton is retired

If you cant understand that joke im sorry.

 

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If you cant understand that joke im sorry.

Good one
Ah hahahhahahaha

 

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I see two open receivers with an easy first down to Walker. Tanny didn't pull the trigger. From trying to gauge his eyes, I'd say he was looking for the TD up top... which may have been open with more time. That is an good play and an easy first down. Receivers were schemed open before the pressure got there. He had options. This is an execution problem.

Walker is open. thats it. Still doesn't answer why he has that route design at the top. Aj browns route there is useless. Have him run a dig to the outisde or something

 

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I see two open receivers with an easy first down to Walker. Tanny didn't pull the trigger. From trying to gauge his eyes, I'd say he was looking for the TD up top... which may have been open with more time. That is an good play and an easy first down. Receivers were schemed open before the pressure got there. He had options. This is an execution problem.

Nobody is open unless you like getting your receiver killed . And as we saw last Sunday, a drop or miss by the receiver can cause a pretty easy INT.

 

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Quoting the ranking tells me that you're looking at the execution/ results. That is fine. Our offense has been a burdeon on our D. No argument there. But that is not an indication of the job Art is doing calling plays. That is what we are discussing. I'm seeing good plays, good timing, and poor execution. Didn't Kalif get us the first down? I'd actually like to see him play more.

I don't recall the fade to Hump, but if that is the case, maybe you can say it was a bad call. Overall, he's impressed me.

He's terrible. One of the worst coaches that I've ever seen. People complain about Davis, but look at this.. It's 2nd and 7...

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How can you be an NFL coach and not take advantage when the secondary is basically ignoring one of your best players? Defenses had to scheme around stopping him a year ago. Now Art has completely diminished his impact by having him run the most predictable and ineffective routes known to man

 

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He's terrible. One of the worst coaches that I've ever seen. People complain about Davis, but look at this.. It's 2nd and 7...

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How can you be an NFL coach and not take advantage when the secondary is basically ignoring one of your best players? Defenses had to scheme around stopping him a year ago. Now Art has completely diminished his impact by having him run the most predictable and ineffective routes known to man

Without the routes or coverage drawn it’s impossible to know what you’re talking about...

 

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He's terrible. One of the worst coaches that I've ever seen. People complain about Davis, but look at this.. It's 2nd and 7...

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How can you be an NFL coach and not take advantage when the secondary is basically ignoring one of your best players? Defenses had to scheme around stopping him a year ago. Now Art has completely diminished his impact by having him run the most predictable and ineffective routes known to man

I'm not sure what you are seeing....they have 4 guys on our 3wrs up top and 3 on our 2wrs down low....so that leaves us with 5 guys blocking their 4 and what happens???? Saffold doesn't give Douglas any help and Tanny takes a quick sack. Who does Saffold think he is supposed to block??? The DE is lined up way out wide almost over our slot WR.....Does Saffold really think he can help on that guy??? The OL didn't even allow the play to develop

 

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Have him run a dig to the outisde or something

The Dig route is to the inside, it’s called an Out if it’s to the sideline. There is no route called Something...