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Jones had a very good first year. His second year was meh, and last year was bad. With this being his last year under contract, I was hoping they'd replace him, but this will be his last. Hopefully upgraded guards help, because he was rough last year.Jones is our Center people
There is no coincidence Mariotas best games came during Jones best games. Jones sucked at times but hes not that bad.
He could earn the backup C role if he does well in camp, I think pamphile/levin are likely duking it out for the backup G spot. Not sure of the new guys versatility but he's not amazing or anything, it will probably be an accomplishment if he makes the roster.Curious, does anyone know much about the C we signed who played with Mariota at Oregon? Maybe they think he could take over for Jones?I know he hasn't been great since being drafted.
He gave me underwear Olympic numbers, which has absolutely nothing to do with the athleticism that a OL needs in order to perform. Those two clowns are stiffs compared to Davis and Saffold, and struggled when required to play in space in the zone blocking scheme (aka , being athletic). This argument is a joke
The drills are the only thing that matters for OL at the combine. If they struggle with movement skills required from OL, they are a hell of a lot more likely to struggle in games than if they just ran .1 second slower than some other guy. Both of which will almost never run 40 yards during an actual contest. Jason Spriggs would be an elite tackle instead a scrub turnstile if those numbers meant much.How does the combine not tell you anything about athleticism?? Hahahaha what??
The drills are the only thing that matters for OL at the combine. If they struggle with movement skills required from OL, they are a hell of a lot more likely to struggle in games than if they just ran .1 second slower than some other guy. Both of which will almost never run 40 yards during an actual contest. Jason Spriggs would be an elite tackle instead a scrub turnstile if those numbers meant much.
Most linemen fail because they can't keep up with pass rushers. Like Kline. Is that not a reflection of his athleticism?
K. 3/6 seasons with 16 games.But Tannehill can? Lol he’s been injury prone too
K. 3/6 seasons with 16 games.
Mariota 0-for. Has yet to complete 1.
Now the point of my post was regarding both OL having issues and the number of sacks they’ve taken. The 3 complete seasons THill played, he was sacked more than MM’s highest record. If he could complete even 1 season, he may reach the same numbers although unlikely but still too high just the same.
I guess I’d like to see THill play with our OL and see if his sack numbers drop or if he stays healthy again. I’d say we’ve had the better OL than Miami.
Compare OL. Still subjective.Compare sacks per dropback as a better reference. Games played won’t tell you much.
Compare OL. Still subjective.
I think THill had a worse OL and I think Mariota has worse QB presence.
They both need to improve (QBs) and the Titans OL needs to improve (JRob has at least made the attempt). Don’t care if Miami OL ever improves.
There are discrepancies between testing numbers and game speed all of the time. Cyprien ran something like a 4.5 and had explosive testing numbers for a safety, yet he looks like he's stuck in mud when he's chasing someone down. Jayon Brown ran a 4.7 and had generally unimpressive testing numbers otherwise, yet he makes plays all over the field and turns out to be an explosive pass rusher. Hooker, the S we just drafted, is evaluated as being a limited athlete , despite his impressive numbers as the combine. There are too many examples to name.They only run the 40 at the combine now? No more 3 come drill to show change of direction? No bench to show strength? No broad jump and vertical to show explosiveness?
You can’t even make your mind up on what you stand for? I thought the O line wasn’t a problem... now you are saying Kline can’t keep up with pass rushers??
You are failing to differentiate the difference between being athletic and being a good football player. Those two things are totally different. Just because someone is athletic doesn’t mean he’ll be a good football player or vice versa.
Not a big PFF guy but shouldn’t how long the QB holds the ball, how quickly WR get open, how good the defense they play is, and any erroneousl injuries also be taken into account?Yeah but I’m saying if THill has been sacked more/less but has more attempts that will tell you more about the OL.
So you are telling me that Kline and Spain are better athletes than this LG:
There's a reason that those two looked so bad when we switched to a blocking scheme which required better athletes
So now You're taking the side of someone commending the athleticism of Spain and Kline. Make up your mind.
He gave me underwear Olympic numbers, which has absolutely nothing to do with the athleticism that a OL needs in order to perform. Those two clowns are stiffs compared to Davis and Saffold, and struggled when required to play in space in the zone blocking scheme (aka , being athletic). This argument is a joke
It doesn't measure play speed. Only game film does. And that's all that matters.Change of direction. Agility. Speed. Explosion. Strength. You think none of these things has anything to do with an OL’s ability to play?
LOL! Why do you think they measure these things?
But I digress. Point is...even you have come to the realization that being a better athlete doesn’t make you a better player. And since we got better players...you can’t say we didn’t need them.
And yes, your argument is not a good one as it is easily disproved and has been disproven (we got new Ol because they are better athletes). Even you agree...you just might not realize it.
There are discrepancies between testing numbers and game speed all of the time. Cyprien ran something like a 4.5 and had explosive testing numbers for a safety, yet he looks like he's stuck in mud when he's chasing someone down. Jayon Brown ran a 4.7 and had generally unimpressive testing numbers otherwise, yet he makes plays all over the field and turns out to be an explosive pass rusher. Hooker, the S we just drafted, is evaluated as being a limited athlete , despite his impressive numbers as the combine. There are too many examples to name.
Bottom line, nobody in their right mind would watch Saffold and Kline/Spain play and conclude that Saffold was the least athletic. Combine numbers aren't anything close to an exact science . How athletic you are on the field is what matters
Curious, does anyone know much about the C we signed who played with Mariota at Oregon? Maybe they think he could take over for Jones?I know he hasn't been great since being drafted.
I posted an article. I never said they were good. It's clear that we were looking to upgrade the interior. And getting more athletic was a quote from an analyst regarding Spain getting benched in favor of Jones going to guard and Levin playing center during one of the games. He wasn't as sold on Spain's athletic prowess as you areDude you are the one who brought up athleticism. You said we upgraded of more athletic guards.
A good combine doesn’t mean you’ll make plays on a football field. I don’t why that’s so hard to understand.
Now all of a sudden you are saying Spain and Kline were problems though.... can’t you just admit you were wrong?