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Not one #jcbgd on the whole damn team!

 

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Vrabel just got done talking about fundamentals last week and the Oline looked awful yet again. At some point if the players are having trouble applying what they are being taught then you have to look at the coach. Its not like the players aren’t capable because they are. The Oline looks completely overwhelmed and lost at times. Is it the scheme? Out coached?

I hear you. But I also know many of these same players have played better. Saffold was considered the top G in FA for a reason. He's now regressing just because he has a new OL coach?

What I am seeing, and I'm far from an expert, are fundamental flaws. These are things these guys have been taught since high school. Stuff like footwork, using your hands—technical stuff.

This is stuff you refine during training camp. Once the season begins, it's on the player to do what they've been taught.

I look at this like when Mariota throws a worm burner or sails a ball 10 feet over an open receiver's head. He has been taught mechanics forever. So, when he does this, is it on the QB coach?

I don't think so. You get that player off the field if there is a better option.

 

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......, when he does this, is it on the QB coach?

I don't think so. You get that player off the field if there is a better option.

Right. But to do so means admitting that you as the coach are not capable of getting the players that the same guy that hired you to play at the level they need to play. OR the guy that hired you simply acquired players incapable of playing at that level.

And therein lies the problem we’re facing.........

 

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It wouldnt get any worse either. Keith Carter had 0 exp as a OL coach when he got the job. I'm tired of these good ole boy hires for positional coach positions.

Carter was an assistant OL coach with the Falcons for two years and college before that.

 

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"That's what happens when you go cheap, you get your ass beat." Right Dion? Actually you win the Super Bowl and we get stuck with you.

 

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Carter was an assistant OL coach with the Falcons for two years and college before that.

They why they saying he had no OL coaching experience? Fake news got me.

 

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Right. But to do so means admitting that you as the coach are not capable of getting the players that the same guy that hired you to play at the level they need to play. OR the guy that hired you simply acquired players incapable of playing at that level.

And therein lies the problem we’re facing.........

I'm not an apologist for any coach on this team. I just find it strange when the FG kicker misses four attempts in one game, it's the player and not the Special Teams coach if we're going to blame Carter for OL play.

 

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Exactly what I've been saying. Some people wanna criticize the fans for opposing fans filling up our stadium. But can you really blame them? It's basically been two full decades of nothing but mediocrity or outright futility. And with this being a newer franchise/market (in the grand scheme of things) we just don't have that built-in rabid fanbase some other historically bad teams like the Browns have.

It all starts at the top, point blank. The team has to make a REAL commitment to being a winning franchise (i.e. stop settling for mediocrity at GM/HC/QB/etc.). Stop clinging to the handful of years the team was good 20 damn years ago. Start giving this city something to be proud of and cheer for and maybe folks will actually choose to spend their Sundays at Nissan Stadium.

It's a two-way street... I'm sure the players get pumped by the fans and play harder, but... the team has to give fans a reason to, at least, care.

The team gets pretty good... the fans come and get loud to, potentially, propel the team to really good.

 

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I'm not an apologist for any coach on this team. I just find it strange when the FG kicker misses four attempts in one game, it's the player and not the Special Teams coach.

I think we agree there are multiple persons/units responsible. But errors and faults are different from responsibilities. There is a hierarchy of responsibility. We agree it is the HC’s responsibility to provide a method to correct the mistakes/faults and ultimately the personnel if the player can not stop the faults/mistakes. And it is the GM who is responsible for the HC’s ability/performance to manage the coaching responsibility. And the owner’s responsibility to the fan base to get a GM that can handle the gm responsibilities. Haven’t seen/heard much from Amy lately.

 

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It wouldnt get any worse either. Keith Carter had 0 exp as a OL coach when he got the job. I'm tired of these good ole boy hires for positional coach positions.

Typical of this organization... we draft Mariota and give him a TE Coach as his QB Coach.

Titans gonna Titan.

 

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It's a two-way street... I'm sure the players get pumped by the fans and play harder, but... the team has to give fans a reason to, at least, care.

It is. But at the end of the day the players are the ones getting paid millions to do their job and the fans are the ones forking over their hard earned money just to watch them do their job.

I feel like the fans stuck with the team initially during the bad years. Just slowly, over the years, more and more of them have said "screw this, not worth it anymore." And I don't blame them one bit.

 

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I can't think of any other team that generates so few big plays and then on the rare occasion when we get one, a penalty always seems to be called.

It's got to the point where I'm waiting to see 'FLAG' in yellow on the bottom of the screen after a big play instead of cheering.

This is me. Any play over 8 yds and I'm checking the bottom right of my TV for 'FLAG"

 

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It is. But at the end of the day the players are the ones getting paid millions to do their job and the fans are the ones forking over their hard earned money just to watch them do their job.

I'm not defending anyone... mainly the fans for not showing up.

It's on the team to meet us halfway... actually more than halfway.

It's on the team to give us something to care about. THEY create an apathetic fanbase.

 

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I'm not an apologist for any coach on this team. I just find it strange when the FG kicker misses four attempts in one game, it's the player and not the Special Teams coach if we're going to blame Carter for OL play.

At this point a kicker shouldn’t need a damn coach go kick the ball in the goal like you have since you were ten bish

 

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POOP!

 

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I'm not defending anyone... mainly the fans for not showing up.

It's on the team to meet us halfway... actually more than halfway.

It's on the team to give us something to care about. THEY create an apathetic fanbase.

The saddest part about that is, you see it in the Preds. They show what a good team and a properly ran organization can do for creating a excited fan base.

There is absolutely no reason why a hockey team in the south (don’t get me wrong, I love the Preds) should have more buzz and excitement around them than an NFL football team.

I live in Texas. I have been several games at Bridgestone and look forward to going to their games. When I go to TN to visit family, I actually plan the trip around a time I can go to a Preds game. Win or lose, always have a good time.

I have never seen a Titans game at Nissan Stadium. Mainly because a) whenever I go see them play in Houston they play like absolute garbage. I feel like I wasted hundreds of dollars in tickets, gas and hotel going driving to Houston. b) seeing some people on this board, Twitter and reddit talk about how awful the gameday experience is. From the lines, to the concessions down to the presentation.

So you are dead on with this. They created the apathetic fan base. They’re the reason season ticket holders would rather sale they’re tickets for above face value to away team fans than attend the game themselves.

 

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Chris from Murfreesboro has a point. You don’t sell a lot of PSLs to brokers if you don’t want a visiting team’s fans coming in.

As far as the team, our offense has been pretty much garbage. OL can’t block, QB lacks an NFL arm/decision making skills, and we don’t have a burner to stretch the field.

We’re wasting our top defense with a less than average offense.

We have a HC and OC with very limited experience in their current roles. We have JRob who appears to be wildly inconsistent with his drafting.

How do we fix this? Idk I’m not the one getting paid to fix it but someone needs to before the franchise loses fans for good. (Not me, I have accepted my fate as a life-long Titans fan)

“The Titans can no longer disappoint me, they can only remind me.” -XO

 

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The saddest part about that is, you see it in the Preds. They show what a good team and a properly ran organization can do for creating a excited fan base.

There is absolutely no reason why a hockey team in the south (don’t get me wrong, I love the Preds) should have more buzz and excitement around them than an NFL football team.

I live in Texas. I have been several games at Bridgestone and look forward to going to their games. When I go to TN to visit family, I actually plan the trip around a time I can go to a Preds game. Win or lose, always have a good time.

I have never seen a Titans game at Nissan Stadium. Mainly because a) whenever I go see them play in Houston they play like absolute garbage. I feel like I wasted hundreds of dollars in tickets, gas and hotel going driving to Houston. b) seeing some people on this board, Twitter and reddit talk about how awful the gameday experience is. From the lines, to the concessions down to the presentation.

So you are dead on with this. They created the apathetic fan base. They’re the reason season ticket holders would rather sale they’re tickets for above face value to away team fans than attend the game themselves.

99-2003 Adelphia Coliseum was rocking. Tailgating in the parking lot was standing room only. The stadium was jacked and crazy. And around 04- until about 3 years ago the product was allowed to die on the vine. It paralleled Bud’s demise and then the heirs ineptitude at nurturing the product. They are playing catch up now, but we still have owners and GM that just don’t have enough experience and ingenuity to advance the product to where it should be for a market like Nashville has. You’re dead on about the Preds. I’ve been going to their games since -02. They have come a LONG way to get where they are now. But honestly- it had a quantum leap forward when ownership changed.

 

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The saddest part about that is, you see it in the Preds. They show what a good team and a properly ran organization can do for creating a excited fan base.

There is absolutely no reason why a hockey team in the south (don’t get me wrong, I love the Preds) should have more buzz and excitement around them than an NFL football team.

I live in Texas. I have been several games at Bridgestone and look forward to going to their games. When I go to TN to visit family, I actually plan the trip around a time I can go to a Preds game. Win or lose, always have a good time.

I have never seen a Titans game at Nissan Stadium. Mainly because a) whenever I go see them play in Houston they play like absolute garbage. I feel like I wasted hundreds of dollars in tickets, gas and hotel going driving to Houston. b) seeing some people on this board, Twitter and reddit talk about how awful the gameday experience is. From the lines, to the concessions down to the presentation.

So you are dead on with this. They created the apathetic fan base. They’re the reason season ticket holders would rather sale they’re tickets for above face value to away team fans than attend the game themselves.

To add one point to this, ownership doesn't give a damn. This isn't some new problem, it's been like this for nearly a decade.

 

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JRob is the most competent GM we’ve had and though he’s not great we as fans have never had any better so we don’t know any better. So we think it can’t get any better and keep settling.

Similar to another position. The one that touches the ball the most.

Centre?