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Yes, I forgot to mention those crucial drive killing drops. We need some healer to come and lift the curse on the organization. Regardless of new coaches or players, same damn issues plaguing the team yearly.
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- #22
Either would be an upgrade
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you forgot that injuries have been minimal
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- #26
Jon Robinson has done a horrible job of acquiring star/playmaking talent. Sure the roster might be a little better over the years, but it’s littered with average and below average players. When the top Free Agents and high draft picks you bring in give you average production, you’ll have average results.
JRob is the GM version of Jeff Fisher. His decisions are the field goal versions of roster management. He values average players that were a part of good teams with good coaching/culture rather than players that generally have good talent. This team is gonna once again be 9-7 at best. It will only be a matter of time before this team is 4-12 or 6-10 with him at the helm in the future.
Some of them are even paid well or even at the top of their position (Butler, Saffold, Lewis, Humphries). Then you have others who were top picks (Conklin, Davis, Jackson, Evans) who are decent players, but have underachieved for their draft position for whatever reason.
The 2 best playmakers on the entire team are arguably a 3rd round safety and a 5th round linebacker.
I would say he has to do better early in the draft and during free agency. But I have zero faith in him moving forward.
You got people saying “let him get his QB.”
No thanks. I saw him trade up to get his tackle in Conklin. I’ve seen how awful he is at evaluating defensive lineman and offensive lineman. He built a line full of slow road graders to play in a zone scheme. He got his 5th overall WR who makes insane catches in training camp but then drops open passes in real games and is currently being outplayed by a 2nd round rookie. He got his corner and PR specialist who is currently 3rd on the depth chart on defense and has been benched as a returner.
Oh yeah, he also got his coach he coveted who’s in game decision making is highly suspect, who seems to never make in game adjustments and is somehow doing worst than the previous coach who he was at first handcuffed to and should of never been given a 3rd chance to be a head coach in the first place.
So yeah, I have no interest in seeing what kind of QB this man would bring in or another off-season of bringing ex-patriots, drafting early picks to be out produced by later round players, last minute camp bodies and signings or UDFAs.
JRob is the GM version of Jeff Fisher. His decisions are the field goal versions of roster management. He values average players that were a part of good teams with good coaching/culture rather than players that generally have good talent. This team is gonna once again be 9-7 at best. It will only be a matter of time before this team is 4-12 or 6-10 with him at the helm in the future.
Some of them are even paid well or even at the top of their position (Butler, Saffold, Lewis, Humphries). Then you have others who were top picks (Conklin, Davis, Jackson, Evans) who are decent players, but have underachieved for their draft position for whatever reason.
The 2 best playmakers on the entire team are arguably a 3rd round safety and a 5th round linebacker.
I would say he has to do better early in the draft and during free agency. But I have zero faith in him moving forward.
You got people saying “let him get his QB.”
No thanks. I saw him trade up to get his tackle in Conklin. I’ve seen how awful he is at evaluating defensive lineman and offensive lineman. He built a line full of slow road graders to play in a zone scheme. He got his 5th overall WR who makes insane catches in training camp but then drops open passes in real games and is currently being outplayed by a 2nd round rookie. He got his corner and PR specialist who is currently 3rd on the depth chart on defense and has been benched as a returner.
Oh yeah, he also got his coach he coveted who’s in game decision making is highly suspect, who seems to never make in game adjustments and is somehow doing worst than the previous coach who he was at first handcuffed to and should of never been given a 3rd chance to be a head coach in the first place.
So yeah, I have no interest in seeing what kind of QB this man would bring in or another off-season of bringing ex-patriots, drafting early picks to be out produced by later round players, last minute camp bodies and signings or UDFAs.
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Going into the season, I wasnt very hopeful about Mariota but I expected the team around him to be better
My expectations were that Mariota could be a game manager and we would be fine on offense.
Nope. Line still has issues and were still dropping passes we shouldn't.
It just isnt fun. Add in the fact that shoutbox has become Facebook, and is just as bad as taboo was, there's really not much to look forward to on game days anymore.
My expectations were that Mariota could be a game manager and we would be fine on offense.
Nope. Line still has issues and were still dropping passes we shouldn't.
It just isnt fun. Add in the fact that shoutbox has become Facebook, and is just as bad as taboo was, there's really not much to look forward to on game days anymore.
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Mariota has taken some unneeded risks on scrambles this season ... is this not the situation where those risks are OK to take, rather than making the throw? 3rd and 11 in the 4th quarter of a tied game, would you prefer to see Marcus decide to take off here? He is going to get by #57, everyone else is behind the play or moving away from him. It will be up to the DB inside the end zone to make the stop, he is either going to score or give us a 4th and 1 or 2, which we could have then confidently went for.
These 2nd and 10s in the 2nd quarter on our side of the 50, getting 3 yards and taking impact ... I'm yelling at him to stop doing that crap. But I just feel like this is the exact situation when he should be using his legs.
These 2nd and 10s in the 2nd quarter on our side of the 50, getting 3 yards and taking impact ... I'm yelling at him to stop doing that crap. But I just feel like this is the exact situation when he should be using his legs.
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I'm not against bringing in a new QB at all, but I have 0% confidence that the OL can protect the new QB. Id rather fix that situation first because we could easily turn into the redskins in the blink of an eye. Drops have always killed us in big situations, guys aren't focused enough, and yeah Dion Lewis is almost a waste of a down at this point.
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Here's the thing for me. Does replacing the OL coach with over half the season left solve our OL issues?
He wasn't the guy who took PEDs and got suspended. He wasn't the guy who brought in a FA guard who has, by anyone's standards, played horribly.
Maybe Carter has to do a better job lighting a fire under Saffold's arse but we don't know he hasn't. At some point, a player has to do their job or be seated on the bench. If Carter has any say in that, and now that Kelly is freed up, it's time to do whatever it takes to put your best five on the field.
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The more I think about yesterday, the more frustrated I get. This entire franchise has been trash since it got to Nashville outside of a handful of fun years. No wonder the stadium is always full of opposing fans. It’s always the same depressing franchise in one way or another. And I’m not sure how you change it. At this point I don’t know if it CAN be changed. How do you change 20+ years of mediocrity at best?
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All fair statements. Not going to be popular for the homers to swallow- but fair.
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Mariota has taken some unneeded risks on scrambles this season ... is this not the situation where those risks are OK to take, rather than making the throw? 3rd and 11 in the 4th quarter of a tied game, would you prefer to see Marcus decide to take off here? He is going to get by #57, everyone else is behind the play or moving away from him. It will be up to the DB inside the end zone to make the stop, he is either going to score or give us a 4th and 1 or 2, which we could have then confidently went for.
These 2nd and 10s in the 2nd quarter on our side of the 50, getting 3 yards and taking impact ... I'm yelling at him to stop doing that crap. But I just feel like this is the exact situation when he should be using his legs.
How about releasing the ball quick to an open spot where the WR is ANTICIPATED to be? That is what Mahomes, Brady, Rogers et al do with great success when faced with an aggressive pass rush that needs cooling off.
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I'm out on Vrabel after some of his odd coaching decisions. Adoree Jackson shouldn't be returning punts period let alone after that Jaguars game. The choice to go for 4th and 1 in the Falcons game rather then going up 17 was beyond dumb and he admitted it was the wrong move. Then down 7 against the Bills, he elects to kick the field goal with his kicker 0-3 on the day and it wouldn't have even tied. His coaching moves are up their with Mularkey and the onside kick to start the season against the Vikings.
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Exactly what I've been saying. Some people wanna criticize the fans for opposing fans filling up our stadium. But can you really blame them? It's basically been two full decades of nothing but mediocrity or outright futility. And with this being a newer franchise/market (in the grand scheme of things) we just don't have that built-in rabid fanbase some other historically bad teams like the Browns have.
It all starts at the top, point blank. The team has to make a REAL commitment to being a winning franchise (i.e. stop settling for mediocrity at GM/HC/QB/etc.). Stop clinging to the handful of years the team was good 20 damn years ago. Start giving this city something to be proud of and cheer for and maybe folks will actually choose to spend their Sundays at Nissan Stadium.
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I get that but the Titans have been sacked 22 times in 5 games, that’s 4 sacks a game. They are on pace for just about 70 sacks give or take for the year. Vrabel just got done talking about fundamentals last week and the Oline looked awful yet again. At some point if the players are having trouble applying what they are being taught then you have to look at the coach. Its not like the players aren’t capable because they are. The Oline looks completely overwhelmed and lost at times. Is it the scheme? Out coached? 6 weeks in and something still isn’t right. What ever the reason is falls on the HC and position coach. Murlarkey fired his special teams coach in 2016 after 4 games because of how awful they started and it worked. Same players were on that same unit give or take 1 or two guys from start to finish. At some point accountability has to be taken as a coach. Maybe it’ll shake itself out who knows but there’s not a lot of time left if they are considering making a PO run.
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Yeah, a good OL coach can help young guys who are having technique issues, but Saffold has just been getting flat run over. I don't know what he did in the offseason, but he has absolutely no power compared to what he's seemed to have in recent years.
Maybe a new OL coach would help guys get on the same page to not miss some assignments, but I don't really think I've seen too many blown assignments, it's more just getting beat athletically, which is far scarier and not something you can just fix.
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It wouldnt get any worse either. Keith Carter had 0 exp as a OL coach when he got the job. I'm tired of these good ole boy hires for positional coach positions.
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