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i never even mentioned watsonYou changed the goalposts son. I won’t even bother.
But thanks for proving Mary never out played watson
Well he was responding to the Winston mariota comparison I called retarded saying head to head qb stats matter
That null and voids anything he said
Sorry im not playing a game where you move the goalposts
Couldn't find it huh? I wonder at times whether you're really a Titans fan or just someone trolling for reactions. I'm not trying to be insulting, either, it's an honest assessment.
Keep spinning though, if you like. If nothing else, it's entertainment during the off-season.
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got caught in his own lie lolYou're not playing HIS game???
YOU were the one who said you could do it. That makes it YOUR game!!! And since we were talking about HEAD to HEAD qb stats...THAT is what you need to provide!
Have fun!
Why does outperforming another qb matter at all when they play in different offenses against different defenses with different players
Apples to walnuts
NE vs Jac, week 2:
Brady: 234 yards, 2 TD’s
Bortles: 376 yards, 4 TD’s
If we’re only basing QB talent off head to head matchups, then Bortles must be the GOAT. You can find stats where inferior QB’s outplay great QB’s all day long. Means nothing. Total body of work is all that matters at the end of the day. 24vs23. Make all the excuses you want lol.
You changed the goalposts son. I won’t even bother.
Yup, the OL was not great for the first 2/3 of the year. But don't for one moment sit there and tell me that a lot of those pressures that Marcus got were not his own fault. I sat in the stadium for the entirety of probably the worst game I've ever seen in professional football when we played the Ravens. Some sacks were quick pressure by a good D play or a blown block. But just as many or more were Marcus seeing the rush and his play completely breaking down. And that went on all season.Uh...we have a damn good team that is ONLY held back by Mariota?
How was our run game most of the year? Great? Good? Poor? It was poor most of the year. So poor Derrick Henry was questioning himself why he was so bad and why the coaching staff had to go with Lewis more. You might wonder why Lewis was poor considering he was excellent in NE. Perhaps because our vaunted OL was playing horribly. Conklin was terrible all year until Kelly replaced him and played well. Spain was so bad he got benched. Kline was so good we didn't want him back. And Jones was so good he gave up the most sack of all NFL OC's despite the fact that we threw the ball fewer than most teams.
Injuries suck, but they're part of the game. Does Brady/Rodgers/Mahomes/Big Ben/Brees/Wilson/Rivers/Watson/Luck's games go to complete crap when they lose a receiving weapon? No. They find other ways to get the job done.Walker was hurt pretty much the whole year and Smith got hurt just when he started showing signs of figuring it out. CD was our only good wr and even he was up and down. Taylor was even more inconsistent and Matthews quit on the team early on.
Is this the vaunted offense Mariota is holding back?
Agree that the OL and defensive pass rush need help. Rak and Morgan were pathetic at getting a pass rush, so hopefully we can get better there. But you're making my point for me that we need better QB play when you point out other teams shredding our defense. At some point in this league, your D can only be so good. We had a top rated defense and even it still got shredded. It will be very rare that you'll ever have a teams D be so shut down that you can get by on scoring 17 points a game. We need a playmaker at our QB position to compete with the rest of the league, and Marcus has not proved that he's it week in and week out.In fairness, Mariota was up and down too. Some games he was quite good and other games he was not.
We added the top free agent OG to play LG and we know they'd like to improve the IOL more. Could be a draft pick...maybe they'd consider moving Conklin to RG and leave Kelly at RT. But that line has been getting a lot of consideration for improvement.
We added the top slot wr in free agency to improve our wr corp and more help is expected via the draft.
And yes, we added a good QB to be Mariota's backup and to push him. And the only reason we aren't looking at RB is that Henry had a monster December and an improved OL should help Lewis get back to form.
The defense that finished ranked so highly was a problem in some big games too! If you watched all the games, you'd know this. Indy marched up and down the field against our vaunted D and we got little Edge pressure from our OLB's (Morgan and Rak). And when Casey was out, we could only get pressure by blitzing ppl up the middle. Our pass rush need help and got some in Landry and Wake...but we likely need more.
I also wouldn't rule out them wanting a true NT given how the Texans ran all over us as did Indy quite a bit though they may hope a better partner for Casey up the middle and more PT for Evans may solve that problem.
This is a good team that had a lot of problems last year. At times, Mariota was one of them. But he was far from the only one and to suggest otherwise is to be the kind of fan that ignores everything except the QB. When we win, it's all the QB. When we lose, it's all the qb.
This is a team sport. We need the whole team to play better and more consistently if we want a championship!
The you said it had to be a week Manziel won and Brady losti never even mentioned watson
and what goalposts did i move? you said you could find a game where brady got outplayed by manziel, so show me it. simple as what you said.
I mean, unless you were just completely full of **** and making stuff up.
Anyone can find any week of any qb where they have better stats than a much much better qbs. Hence why head to head stats are retardedHE changed the goal posts? A good try at misdirection...but he just asked you to put up (find where Manziel outplayed Brady head to head)…
...you make a claim...but then won't "bother" to prove it.
I see.
well if you lost and the other person won... you clearly didnt outplay them... seems like that would come with the territory of outplayingThe you said it had to be a week Manziel won and Brady lost
@CJtheBeastwell if you lost and the other person won... you clearly didnt outplay them... seems like that would come with the territory of outplaying
and again... im not involved in your mary/watson debate so i dont give a crap about that.
this doesnt look like proof of manziel outplaying brady...
Yup, the OL was not great for the first 2/3 of the year. But don't for one moment sit there and tell me that a lot of those pressures that Marcus got were not his own fault. I sat in the stadium for the entirety of probably the worst game I've ever seen in professional football when we played the Ravens. Some sacks were quick pressure by a good D play or a blown block. But just as many or more were Marcus seeing the rush and his play completely breaking down. And that went on all season.
And the run game was not great in the first half of the season....where we went 5-6
What did Marcus do during that time to elevate the team? He got us a big win against the Pats and somehow pulled one out of a hat against the Eagles. Those were awesome! Now if he could only do that on a consistent basis we'd be in business.
it was the OL and run game finding their legs.
That position is the one spot that can make a major impact on every game and differentiate your team from everyone else. Marcus doesn't do that for us right now. We've had 4 years and we're still sitting here arguing if he ever can. That's a problem!
Injuries suck, but they're part of the game. Does Brady/Rodgers/Mahomes/Big Ben/Brees/Wilson/Rivers/Watson/Luck's games go to complete crap when they lose a receiving weapon? No. They find other ways to get the job done.
He's looked great in some games, and that drives me nuts because it just makes no sense why he looks so terrible in others.
But you're making my point for me that we need better QB play when you point out other teams shredding our defense. At some point in this league, your D can only be so good. We had a top rated defense and even it still got shredded.
Anyone can find any week of any qb where they have better stats than a much much better qbs.
Do we ever say “we’ll at least tajae had more yards than Antonio brown he must be better!”
I like your positive attitude, I'm sure some will but there are those that would rather b*tch and complain.ROFLMAO!!!
I know logic and reality goes over the head of some...but sometimes...sometimes...someone's perception changes when they see the logic laid out instead of just repeating someone else's garbage.
Thanks for the laugh!