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Wow- logic fail!

You picked out one scenario and said “see, it doesnt matter”. what you obviously dont get is that it just might matter A HELL OF A LOT. what if we lose to the Texans? plug that into that dummy helper and see what you get if Pitt loses both games. We get in with a win over NO.

Beating NO gives us another path to the playoffs.

Wrong. If Pitt loses both, and we lose both, we get in if Carolina beats Indy. It's a pretty cool dummy-helper. You should try it.
 
If Pittsburgh loses both games, then NO still doesn't matter. Because we could lose both games and still get in at 8-8 on the tie-breakers.

If Pittsburgh wins 1 game, then we would get in at 9-7 with tie-breakers by losing to NO and beating Houston. If we beat NO and lose to Houston, we would be out based on tie-breakers with Pittsburgh at 9-7.

The only way the NO game matters at all is if Houston loses to Tampa Bay on Saturday. If Houston beats Tampa Bay, the NO game will then have zero bearing on our playoff berth.
Just for tiebreaker explanation because I too didn’t go far enough,

If pit and Ten both end 8-8 (and no one else does either)
Conf rec is both 6-6
Like opponents both 3-2
Strength of victory is next - ten .446, pit .308
Tennessee gets in.

If they both end 9-7
Pit either game will end conf rec 7-5.
If ten beats NO, loses Hou, conf rec is 6-6
Pit is in
If ten loses NO, beats Hou, conf rec is 7-5
Ten gets in

If they both end 10-6
Pit conf rec 8-4
Ten conf 7-5
Pit gets in.

This does not add if Cleveland, IND, or oak we’re to also tie at 8-8 or if Tennessee were to win division.

All that said, the NO game still matters for division only. Currently both Hou and Ten are 1pm games

Edit: I’ll also add that it doesn’t matter which game pit loses, the tiebreakers stay the same.
 
Winston will probably be able to throw against that secondary but I don't see them winning that game, hope I'm wrong. The other issue is beating NO's I think we will be able to score against them to a point but fear we will never be able to stop them from scoring at will. I think we are all but toast for the playoffs at this point. Really wanted to believe we were finally going to break through this year and maybe make a real run, but as usual Titans gonna Titans.

So you’re basically saying theres almost no way that Pitt can lose one of their last two road games, and no way we can beat the Texans at home?
 
Houston plays Saturday. Titans will know Saturday evening if they have a chance to win the division. If Houston beats Tampa Saturday, NO means nothing on Sunday.
I didn’t go through all the 8-8 scenarios/tiebreakers.

I’m sure it would be preferred that Tennessee does not drop into a tie with Indy, Cle, or Oak.
That might be the reason why a win over NO has value.
 
mberglo- i have yo add you to the logic fail list.

You see, picking a scenario where the NO game doesnt matter, DOES NOT EQUAL the NO game not mattering.

Because no one knows what is going to happen, you always try to give yourself the best chance to advance.

Beating NO gives us a path that we dont have if we dont beat them. Yes, other things MGHT happen that gets us in, but that is not the same thing as NO not mattering.

Let me give you a scenario: Pit loses both games, Indy wins 1, and we lose to the Texans.

At this point, New Orleans matters! If you went up the Titan coaching staff and said the NO game doesnt matter because there are still ways we can get in the playoffs if we lose, they’d look at you like you were from Mars.

By that “logic” the Texan game Sunday really didnt matter, did it?
 
I suppose by the time we know if the NO game mattered, we’ll either be eliminated already or in the playoffs. At that time, we can dissect all 16 games on which ones mattered.

As of now, the NO game matters, titans need to win regardless off TB/Hou. A loss just doesn’t eliminate them. A win and a Pit loss sets Tennessee at the #6 spot going into week 17.

But they still have to win at Houston unless the Steelers lose out. If the Steelers lose out, the Titans win the tie breaker at 8-8 if they also lose out.

If Houston wins, the Saints game does. Not. Matter.
 
So you’re basically saying theres almost no way that Pitt can lose one of their last two road games, and no way we can beat the Texans at home?

Looking at it that way of course there is a chance so maybe the doom and gloom forecast is a little too strong on my part here, just felt like if we had beaten the Texans the path was almost certain, here we are relying on so many moving parts and that has rarely worked in our favor before. With Pitts QB situation anything is possible, but their D is very good so expecting the woeful Jets to beat them isn’t a good bet for me, if the Ravens have something to play for then sure they will likely lose that game. The best way for the Titans to assure themselves a playoff berth is to win out. There’s where the worry comes in...
 
mberglo- i have yo add you to the logic fail list.

You see, picking a scenario where the NO game doesnt matter, DOES NOT EQUAL the NO game not mattering.

Because no one knows what is going to happen, you always try to give yourself the best chance to advance.

Beating NO gives us a path that we dont have if we dont beat them. Yes, other things MGHT happen that gets us in, but that is not the same thing as NO not mattering.

Let me give you a scenario: Pit loses both games, Indy wins 1, and we lose to the Texans.

At this point, New Orleans matters! If you went up the Titan coaching staff and said the NO game doesnt matter because there are still ways we can get in the playoffs if we lose, they’d look at you like you were from Mars.

By that “logic” the Texan game Sunday really didnt matter, did it?

There’s one scenario where the Saints game matters, and that’s if both TEN and PIT lose out and the Colts manage to go 2-0.

The odds of all of that happening aren’t even worth discussing, and either way, the Texans game is still there for us to win.

This isn’t fucking rocket science, dude. And I don’t even know what you’re going on about later in the post. I was talking about the game not mattering in terms of playoff scenarios, not the game not mattering at all. Of course the team and fans want to win the game. I guess you choose to argue semantics because you don’t have an actual point.
 
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To recap, Saints game is not meaningless even if Texans beat Bucs.

Problem is we won’t know if it is meaningless or not until after week 17. If Texans beat Bucs and we think our best chance to get in is by having a healthier team to help us get a win against the Texans, then we should rest some players.
 
To recap, Saints game is not meaningless even if Texans beat Bucs.

Problem is we won’t know if it is meaningless or not until after week 17. If Texans beat Bucs and we think our best chance to get in is by having a healthier team to help us get a win against the Texans, then we should rest some players.

That’s a weird dilemma to have but knowing the Texans result on Saturday kind of helps. I don’t see scenario though where we don’t go all out to beat NO (unless Henry is that bad that he just can’t go and I thought I read that he practiced the last two days so I doubt he would practice and not end up playing) either way these last two weekend are gonna be anxiety ridden for us fans.
 
That’s a weird dilemma to have but knowing the Texans result on Saturday kind of helps. I don’t see scenario though where we don’t go all out to beat NO (unless Henry is that bad that he just can’t go and I thought I read that he practiced the last two days so I doubt he would practice and not end up playing) either way these last two weekend are gonna be anxiety ridden for us fans.
Henry practiced weds as did adoree. Today they both did not practice
 
If Texans beat Bucs and Titans lose to Saints - IT'S ALL OVER!

Pittsburgh will probably get past the Jets but not the Ravens. I think it's critical that the Titans win against both the Saints and Texans because they'll surpass the Steelers at least securing the last playoff wildcard spot.
 
If Texans beat Bucs and Titans lose to Saints - IT'S ALL OVER!

Pittsburgh will probably get past the Jets but not the Ravens. I think it's critical that the Titans win against both the Saints and Texans because they'll surpass the Steelers at least securing the last playoff wildcard spot.
Incorrect with tie breakers.
That scenario has the division over but not the WC.
If titans beat Houston week 17 and the Steelers lose either NYJ or Baltimore game, titans would get WC.
 
I just want to do the easy thing and take it completely out of our hands and go 2-0. Then we know we have done everything we can do to make it.
 
There’s one scenario where the Saints game matters, and that’s if both TEN and PIT lose out and the Colts manage to go 2-0.

The odds of all of that happening aren’t even worth discussing....

if the Texans lose at TB, pretty sure NO matters.
 
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just cleaning up all of your little messes, of which there have been plenty. no
problem- i do it for free.

Trying to fix something that isn’t broken. Good luck with that.

A little reading comprehension would save you a ton of work.
 
To recap, Saints game is not meaningless even if Texans beat Bucs.

Problem is we won’t know if it is meaningless or not until after week 17. If Texans beat Bucs and we think our best chance to get in is by having a healthier team to help us get a win against the Texans, then we should rest some players.
How is it not meaningless?
 
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