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Going in to 2019, do the Titans have a single elite player on the roster? I'd say no.

Jurrell Casey is the only great player on the roster.
I hadn't taken notice of this thread til just now, but Kevin Byard hello..? Delanie Walker, Taylor Lewan, and even our punter probably qualify as elite at what they do too.

We also have some potential hopefuls in Henry, Davis, and Evans.

Plus whatever Simmons develops into....
 
I hadn't taken notice of this thread til just now, but Kevin Byard hello
He’s good not elite. He had a great season 2017 for sure.

Delanie Walker,
Maybe. We’ll see how he does after the injury. The team seems to be confident since they didn’t address the position one bit.

Taylor Lewan,
It looked like Allen Branch concussed the talent out of Lewan last season.

I think Jayon Brown has the best chance of anyone on the roster.
 
my point was never about the QB, its about OC's making work with what they have. The OC set up the offense where if Rex did enough not to lose they would win
But Grossman had 25 turnovers that season. Talk about not developing a guy. Maybe the defense and special teams scoring a total of 8 TDs had more to do with it than Grossman not losing the game?

Mariota and Gabbert combined for 50 fewer attempts than Grossman that year. How little do you want the QB to do every week?
 
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He’s good not elite. He had a great season 2017 for sure.

What? Good?

If he isn’t elite or even great then no safety is. Byard goes head to head with every safety in the league statically.
 
What? Good?

If he isn’t elite or even great then no safety is. Byard goes head to head with every safety in the league statically.
Ed Reed was elite. Troy Polamalu was elite. Is Byard in that category?

Not everyone can be elite. That's why the word exists. There's nothing wrong with being good.
 
I don’t think he is on the level of Reed, Polamolu, or Dawkins yet, but he is on his way. Such a steal of a pick for us.
 
Ed Reed was elite. Troy Polamalu was elite. Is Byard in that category?

Not everyone can be elite. That's why the word exists. There's nothing wrong with being good.
I don’t think he is on the level of Reed, Polamolu, or Dawkins yet, but he is on his way. Such a steal of a pick for us.

As a fan those are the guys you want all safetys emulating

But it's not fair to expect that from him. He might be as good as those guys maybe. Probably not tho TBH. Those are HoFs

I think you can still be elite or on the cusp without being Brian Dawkins level of great.
 
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Ed Reed was elite. Troy Polamalu was elite. Is Byard in that category?

Not everyone can be elite. That's why the word exists. There's nothing wrong with being good.


I think it's still early to put Byard in that elite category but he's headed in that direction if he maintains his level of play. Reed started all 16 his first year while Troy and Byard had to wait till year 2 but If you look at all 3 players in their first 2 seasons as full starters they are all pretty consistent. Arrow is definitely pointing up for Byard that's for sure.

Polamulu 04 int 5, 1 pick 6,14 PD, 1 FF ,1 sack , 96 tackles, 67 solo
05 int 2 ,1 FF, 1 FF TD, PD,8 , 3 sacks,91 tackles,73 solo
2 pro bowls, 1 first team all pro


Reed 02 int 5, 1 sack, 12 PD,85 tackles, 71 solo
03 int 7, 1 pick 6,15 PD, 1 FF, 1 sack, 71 tackles, 59 solo
1 pro bowl


Byard 17 int 8, 2 FR, 16 PD, 87 tackles, 62 solo
18 int 4 , 2 sacks, 8PD, 90 tackles, 62 solo

1 prow bowl, 1 first team all pro
 
Really hate the word elite.
Too many people continue to throw it out there for people that are not even close and it really diminishes the word and the talent that actually is elite.
If you ain’t HoF, you are not elite. Even if you are HoF, you are not then auto elite.
There are probably about 5 players in the entire league that are actually elite and **breaking news** none of them are titans.
 
I think it's still early to put Byard in that elite category but he's headed in that direction if he maintains his level of play. Reed started all 16 his first year while Troy and Byard had to wait till year 2 but If you look at all 3 players in their first 2 seasons as full starters they are all pretty consistent. Arrow is definitely pointing up for Byard that's for sure.

Polamulu 04 int 5, 1 pick 6,14 PD, 1 FF ,1 sack , 96 tackles, 67 solo
05 int 2 ,1 FF, 1 FF TD, PD,8 , 3 sacks,91 tackles,73 solo
2 pro bowls, 1 first team all pro


Reed 02 int 5, 1 sack, 12 PD,85 tackles, 71 solo
03 int 7, 1 pick 6,15 PD, 1 FF, 1 sack, 71 tackles, 59 solo
1 pro bowl


Byard 17 int 8, 2 FR, 16 PD, 87 tackles, 62 solo
18 int 4 , 2 sacks, 8PD, 90 tackles, 62 solo

1 prow bowl, 1 first team all pro
Barring some kind of misfortune, Byard has everything he needs to be elite. What round did we pick him in, 5th?
 
I think it's still early to put Byard in that elite category but he's headed in that direction if he maintains his level of play. Reed started all 16 his first year while Troy and Byard had to wait till year 2 but If you look at all 3 players in their first 2 seasons as full starters they are all pretty consistent. Arrow is definitely pointing up for Byard that's for sure.

Polamulu 04 int 5, 1 pick 6,14 PD, 1 FF ,1 sack , 96 tackles, 67 solo
05 int 2 ,1 FF, 1 FF TD, PD,8 , 3 sacks,91 tackles,73 solo
2 pro bowls, 1 first team all pro


Reed 02 int 5, 1 sack, 12 PD,85 tackles, 71 solo
03 int 7, 1 pick 6,15 PD, 1 FF, 1 sack, 71 tackles, 59 solo
1 pro bowl


Byard 17 int 8, 2 FR, 16 PD, 87 tackles, 62 solo
18 int 4 , 2 sacks, 8PD, 90 tackles, 62 solo

1 prow bowl, 1 first team all pro

Yea Byard and Troy’s stats their first 3 seasons are similar.

Reed was on a different level his 1st 3 seasons
 
1st 2 years of Go-to-Starter experience (2016 Byard only started 7 games)


Byard

12 ints, 177 tackles - 124 Solo, 24 PD, 2 FR, 2 Sacks, 8 QB hits.

Polamalu

5 ints, 187 tackles - 140 Solo, 22 PD, 2 FF, 4 sacks

Reed

12 ints, 156 tackles - 130 Solo, 27 PD, 1 FF, 2 sacks


He is
well on his way to having a stellar career.
If he can continue to string together production season after production season, He will contend with the greats at safety. At least from the trail he's on right now.. However, he needs to continue to to pad those pass deflection stats as well (which in turn could lead to more ints, tip style) because Ed Reed only had less than 10 PD's twice until his back 9 of his career.
 
Really hate the word elite.
Too many people continue to throw it out there for people that are not even close and it really diminishes the word and the talent that actually is elite.
If you ain’t HoF, you are not elite. Even if you are HoF, you are not then auto elite.
There are probably about 5 players in the entire league that are actually elite and **breaking news** none of them are titans.

Interesting perspective. Mind naming them?
 
Julio, AB (as far as past), Brady, Brees, Donald, Mack, Kelce (C), Kelce (TE), Walker, Barkley, Zeke, ...

I tried to exclude Titans to avoid bias. I think there’s more than 5 elite players
 
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