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D had two stops in the 4th

Same ole story with Jimbelina "death of 1,000 cuts" Schwartzie in that they allowed the game winning drive late in the 4th. D was not tired they were just ineffective late because their DC is an estrogen junky.
 
When Albert went down in the 4th, I told my pal Tommy Three Thumbs to watch. Al would sit on the ground for a while. Then get up and walk off. Then return the next play.

He does this all the time when he's tired and needs a breather. He didnt' even limp when he walked off. The next play he's back in and raising his arms up to fire up the crowd.

It's hilarious...
 
elfinmagic53 said:
Lamont isn't a bad safety.
yeah he is. he wouldnt have been cut after one year from the one of the worst teams in the league if he was worth a damn.

he's had three good plays since he's been with the titans. his big hits in the last two minutes of the panthers games a few years ago. and his INT for a TD against the phins in '04.
 
Hoffa said:
When Albert went down in the 4th, I told my pal Tommy Three Thumbs to watch. Al would sit on the ground for a while. Then get up and walk off. Then return the next play.

He does this all the time when he's tired and needs a breather. He didnt' even limp when he walked off. The next play he's back in and raising his arms up to fire up the crowd.

It's hilarious...


all true, the really sad part is the play he took off was the 3rd and 1 on the game winning drive.
 
GoT said:
D had two stops in the 4th

Same ole story with Jimbelina "death of 1,000 cuts" Schwartzie in that they allowed the game winning drive late in the 4th. D was not tired they were just ineffective late because their DC is an estrogen junky.
Help me understand...

If Schwartz is to blame for Hill biting on a fake which resulted in the Jets big gain after two straight three-and-outs. Is he to blame for the Finnegan blitz which gave the offense the ball on the Jets one?
 
TitanJeff said:
Help me understand...

If Schwartz is to blame for Hill biting on a fake which resulted in the Jets big gain after two straight three-and-outs. Is he to blame for the Finnegan blitz which gave the offense the ball on the Jets one?
he's to blame for not seeing that blitzing an immolble qb works.
 
yes he is on both points. I would say the other CB was plenty guilty of falling for play action fakes also.

Schwartz should blitz as many as necessary in order to create havoc in the backfield. When the QB is under pressure good things happen. When the QB is not challenged in the backfield, as Schwartz choose to NOT blitz for the bulk of the game, then the pathetic secondary will be exposed. Joe Montana - I mean Chad Pennington - really spread the ball around as he had 4-5 seconds on most throws because dehr Schwartzie refused to send enough men into the backfield to do any harm.



Now specifically on the game winning late 4th quarter drive. Had them on 3rd and 1 and Haynesworth took himself out for that ONE play - arrugh. ( I still blame Schwartz for that anyways) Does AH make a difference on that play? I don't know they went wide and the midget CB Jones almost broke it up, almost, almost... Then Hill bites on a double move and Hope's big hit on Coles does not seperate the man from the ball. ( I still blame Schwartz for having Hill in the game at that time ) Game winning TD was thrown perfectly in part because it was second and goal from the 12 and Schwartz was in full "death of 1,000 cuts" no pressure mode so Pennington throws a perfect pass for the winner.

Raise your hand if you were not absoutly positive the JETS were gonna score on that drive. I thought so.

Raise your hand if you were not absoutly postive the Titans were incapable of answering. Just as I thought.
 
GoT said:
Raise your hand if you were not absoutly positive the JETS were gonna score on that drive. I thought so.
i had no doubt they were going to score. i HOPED it would be a field goal.

but from that great movie Grumpier Old Men, "Crap in one hand, wish in the other and see which one fills up first."
 
TitanJeff said:
Help me understand...

If Schwartz is to blame for Hill biting on a fake which resulted in the Jets big gain after two straight three-and-outs. Is he to blame for the Finnegan blitz which gave the offense the ball on the Jets one?

There was bad play by individualy defenders, that you can't blame Schwartz for and the blitz was a good call (although I wouldn't be surprised if Finnegan wasn't supposed to blitz but did so anyway :brow:).

However repeatedly through the game we saw too little pressure on the quarterback and too big cushions for the receivers and generally poor coverage. Once in a while that can be attributed to bad play by the players, but this consistently it has to be the scheming.
 
Vigsted said:
Once in a while that can be attributed to bad play by the players, but this consistently it has to be the scheming.
Gotcha.

So Schwartz is responsible when our front four can't get pressure on Pennington for stretches at a time?
 
TitanJeff said:
Gotcha.

So Schwartz is responsible when our front four can't get pressure on Pennington for stretches at a time?

Yes. At the very least he's responsible for not calling any blitzes to help the front 4 get pressure. You can't always rely on your 4 linemen to get pressure, just like you can't rely on your dbacks to have coverage if there is no pressure.
 
Vigsted said:
Yes. At the very least he's responsible for not calling any blitzes to help the front 4 get pressure. You can't always rely on your 4 linemen to get pressure, just like you can't rely on your dbacks to have coverage if there is no pressure.
I saw a number of blitzes Sunday. Some worked. Some didn't. I suppose those that did are due to players making plays and those that didn't are due to Schwartz. ;)

BTW, if the Titans front four can't get pressure without the blitz, they'll never be a top defense.
 
you guys are right, lets have DONNIE NICKEY as our #1, how could we be so stupid, or heres a better idea, lets move pac man to saftey


:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
 
TitanJeff said:
I saw a number of blitzes Sunday. Some worked. Some didn't. I suppose those that did are due to players making plays and those that didn't are due to Schwartz. ;)

BTW, if the Titans front four can't get pressure without the blitz, they'll never be a top defense.

No, if a blitz works I credit Schwartz for calling it and the player for executing it, if it doesn't work it depends on the situation whether it's Schwartz fault for calling a wrong blitz or if it's bad execution by the player.

And name me 5 teams that get consistent pressure without blitzing? Atlanta and Jacksonville were on my list until injuries, I honestly don't know who else.
 
Vigsted said:
No, if a blitz works I credit Schwartz for calling it and the player for executing it, if it doesn't work it depends on the situation whether it's Schwartz fault for calling a wrong blitz or if it's bad execution by the player.

And name me 5 teams that get consistent pressure without blitzing? Atlanta and Jacksonville were on my list until injuries, I honestly don't know who else.
atlanta, jacksonville, carolina and tampa bay. im sure there are a few others.
 
Vigsted said:
No, if a blitz works I credit Schwartz for calling it and the player for executing it, if it doesn't work it depends on the situation whether it's Schwartz fault for calling a wrong blitz or if it's bad execution by the player.
I see a lot of situations where the Titans are in the perfect defense and a player melts down and the finger gets pointed at Schwartz.

Play a game with me here. Give me any big play from last week you feel was Schwartz's fault for calling the wrong scheme.

And name me 5 teams that get consistent pressure without blitzing? Atlanta and Jacksonville were on my list until injuries, I honestly don't know who else.
Every top pass defense has a DL that can get pressure without bringing a blitz.
 
TitanJeff said:
Play a game with me here. Give me any big play from last week you feel was Schwartz's fault for calling the wrong scheme.

I don't have the game on tape so I can't tell you exactly when it happened, but no a couple of their redzone visits our cornerbacks gave 5-7 yards cushions to receivers with the ball at the 5!!! As another poster pointed out, we're lucky they didn't just audible to a quickslant for an easy 6! That is one example of bad scheming. Also I believe we should have blitzed Pennington a lot more than we did, certainly Bulluck and Thornton should be able to get pressure on the edges, but I didn't see it.

Every top pass defense has a DL that can get pressure without bringing a blitz.

You still didn't name me 5 teams that can consistently bring pressure with only the front 4.
 
Vigsted said:
but no a couple of their redzone visits our cornerbacks gave 5-7 yards cushions to receivers with the ball at the 5!!! As another poster pointed out, we're lucky they didn't just audible to a quickslant for an easy 6! That is one example of bad scheming
:wave:
 
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