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No, a poor way to approach the draft is "we went defense last year so i think we should go offense this year" lol cmon man
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I’m a fan of Brown
Thats a poor way to draft. If this wasn’t such a heavy draft for pass rushers, I’d agree, but I think we can find a very capable guy in the 2nd.
I’m of the opinion that MM isn’t likely to be back next year, we need the offense with a bit of experience if we bring in a new guy.
Never said thatNo, a poor way to approach the draft is "we went defense last year so i think we should go offense this year" lol cmon man
Never said that
We've done it the past few years, and its a heavy pass rusher draft. We are likely to find a capable starter in the 2nd.
It's common knowledge you don't draft for need, that is what free agency is for. Draft BPA, fill needs in FA.
You eventually have to start getting young skill position players on offense, and I think we are in a pretty good spot to do that at 19.
I won’t be upset with it.I think we approach it the way we did last year..... get a guy in the 2nd to learn, like landry did with Morgan last year.
1st round last year was generally the same way, draft Evans to learn behind Woody before we kick him to curb.
However, 1st round this year has to be to fill a MAJOR MAJOR needs - interior rush
I won’t be upset with it.
Like I said, take BPA, and that could easily be a pass rusher. I just think you could snag one in the second round.
I just think it’s a poor strategy to load up so heavily on defense in the draft, and in 4 years you have half your defense leaving or eating up monster contracts. Some balance is good.
We could really be hurting on offense if DW doesn’t come back strong and Henry doesn’t pick up where he left off. I just don’t think we’ve done enough there, imo.
What we did last year doesnt matter. You have to look at what we need right now. Just the way it is.
I'm adding Cody Ford and his 19 reps to this list though. And since I'm doing that I gotta add the rest of the olineman because ford has better tape than the rest of the class. This O line class just isn't very good, and if we get one it needs to be in the 2nd or later.
I’m a fan of Brown
Thats a poor way to draft. If this wasn’t such a heavy draft for pass rushers, I’d agree, but I think we can find a very capable guy in the 2nd.
I’m of the opinion that MM isn’t likely to be back next year, we need the offense with a bit of experience if we bring in a new guy.
I won’t be upset with it.
Like I said, take BPA, and that could easily be a pass rusher. I just think you could snag one in the second round.
I just think it’s a poor strategy to load up so heavily on defense in the draft, and in 4 years you have half your defense leaving or eating up monster contracts. Some balance is good.
We could really be hurting on offense if DW doesn’t come back strong and Henry doesn’t pick up where he left off. I just don’t think we’ve done enough there, imo.
BPA...haven't we gone beyond that now? And if you're saying in your next paragraph its a poor strategy to just load up on D...what if DL is the BPA available every year. Will it work if every 1st and 2nd round pick for 5 years in a row are DL? It doesn't work for any position to put that many resources into it. So we need an adjustment in thinking. BPA does not work.
I mean, you clearly have to have some discrepancy. If there is a run on edge rushers, and we got a guy projected to go in the 2nd who is next on the list, or a top 10 guy at another position who slid, who are you going to take?
I sure hope it’s not the edge guy simply because it’s a bigger need.
You eventually have to start getting young skill position players on offense, and I think we are in a pretty good spot to do that at 19.
It took all year for one of those guys to do anything and Hump is on a new team...... Henry, Corey, Hump, Tajae, Taywan, and Jonnu are all 23-25 years old....
Brian Burns terrifies me. He looks like Justin Hunter out on the field - tall and super skinny. Dude needs to bulk up, because he needs to add some power to his game or he's going to have a short career.
One thing that really stands out to me watching him, is he does get to the QB a lot but he doesn't get them on the ground immediately. It's like, grab them, spin them around, fall down, pull them down on top of you. That's not going to work in the NFL, especially against QBs like Luck or Roethlisberger who will have completed a TD pass by the time Burns would get them on the ground.
He's definitely one I'm staying away from in the 1st round. He could be a good player if he adds about 20 pounds of muscle, but not a 1st rounder IMO.
Brian Burns terrifies me. He looks like Justin Hunter out on the field - tall and super skinny. Dude needs to bulk up, because he needs to add some power to his game or he's going to have a short career.
One thing that really stands out to me watching him, is he does get to the QB a lot but he doesn't get them on the ground immediately. It's like, grab them, spin them around, fall down, pull them down on top of you. That's not going to work in the NFL, especially against QBs like Luck or Roethlisberger who will have completed a TD pass by the time Burns would get them on the ground.
He's definitely one I'm staying away from in the 1st round. He could be a good player if he adds about 20 pounds of muscle, but not a 1st rounder IMO.
is he a Daniele Hunter clone or a Leonard Floyd?The problem is...his combination of athleticism and skills is top 10. He is a Danielle Hunter clone. If we project him as the next Danielle hunter, I think we'd all be ecstatic. Problem is...can he add even MORE weight and strength and keep during an NFL season? The fact that he bulked up to 249 and still put on a combine shows makes me think yes. And his ability to get a low angle arc running around the tackle is as good as anyone...and that includes Josh Allen. We won't find a guy in round 2 who has such an explosive first step AND that kind of bend around the arc. Plus, he doesn't has a pretty good spin move and he has a nice inside counter too and shows the ability to slap hands off him. And with his quick feet and twitch, he can make some dynamic plays and SHOULD be a consistent 10+ sack guy. But he'll need to add some bulk...I'd say 10-15lbs and get a lot stronger.
His biggest weaknesses are his anchor and shed vs the run and you don't see him beat people with much of a bull rush in the pass rush. People like to throw around this concept of converting speed to power (Fergasun and Gary come to mind) and it's not really something in his repertoire. If he adds that, he could become better than Hunter. But if his upside is a 14-15 sack a year guy and his floor is an elite situational pass rusher...there are worse things to take at pick 19.
He's definitely on my first round board and quite arguably the 3rd best EDGE pass rusher in the draft (Bosa and Allen).