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JCBRAVE said:
Theres no place for this in football, but i really dont see it going thru the courts

Rudolph isnt even hurt, which in itself seems nuts
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Suffering an injury isn't necessarily a requirement for criminal assault in some states. For example, in Texas bodily injury can be proven via showing that the victim suffered some form of physical pain even if there is no lasting injury.
 
wrench248 said:
Suffering an injury isn't necessarily a requirement for criminal assault in some states. For example, in Texas bodily injury can be proven via showing that the victim suffered some form of physical pain even if there is no lasting injury.
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If this does make it out of the NFLs hands then whatever, maybe it should.

I just dont think it will
 
Lawsuits from pretty much any injury on the field is a very bad idea for the league.

The penalties (specifically roughing the passer) are already ridiculous. Imagine if players now had to worry about getting sued over a hit.

Not saying that swinging the helmet is part of the game but in a way it is. The “weapons” are not only supplied to every player, they are mandatory.
 
Suspending him for the rest of the season and playoffs (not that they were going to the playoffs anyway) is a huge financial hit. Probably more punishment than a criminal charge would be anyway. Leave it on the field and let the NFL punish him.
 
HurrayTitans! said:
Lawsuits from pretty much any injury on the field is a very bad idea for the league.

The penalties (specifically roughing the passer) are already ridiculous. Imagine if players now had to worry about getting sued over a hit.

Not saying that swinging the helmet is part of the game but in a way it is. The “weapons” are not only supplied to every player, they are mandatory.
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Swinging a helmet is in no way a part of the game. Some of you are getting ridiculous.
 
titanthakur said:
yea but the poll asks what it SHOULD be, and I think using equipment as weapons in sports should set an example and put him in jail 6 months to a year. Assault with a weapon. Isn’t someone here a cop or retired cop? Would that charge hold up and be legit @altitan
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Sorry, I've been flying back home and missed your post. @altitan would be better able to answer your question, I work for DOD.

That said, I agree that there's probably grounds for criminal assault charges if Rudolph chose to follow that route.
 
Msut10 said:
Can you imagine the damage that would have caused if it would have been a direct hit? People die from stuff like that.
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He absolutely could have been killed. Rudolph should get a hefty fine and a game, but Garrett could get an assault charge. In any other circumstance, he would.
 
nbtoppers2 said:
He absolutely could have been killed. Rudolph should get a hefty fine and a game, but Garrett could get an assault charge. In any other circumstance, he would.
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Absolutely true.

If that incident had been recorded in the private sector (outside of professional sports) there would be criminal charges filed.

I understand that Garrett was provoked, and support him retaliating up UNTIL the helmet swing.

Had he punched Rudolph in the face I'd be fully in his corner, but swinging a helmet is way over the top.

Pouncy is a punk. Hitting and kicking a man while he's held down is a punk move. I've a feeling that the players in the league have formed their own opinions on all of the players involved and will likely respond accordingly when they meet them on the field.
 
I don’t see Garrett getting charged although his actions certainly warrant it. His behavior was clearly outside the norm of the sport but because Rudolph wasn’t hurt I don’t think you’ll see anything. Does that make it right ? No. I agree like everyone else that Garrett knowingly and intentionally used a helmet to try and injure another player. If Rudolph had suffered a significant injury I think you would see criminal charges being brought up. Certainly Rudolph has a case to be heard if he does decide to go down that road. The NFL already came in and handed down their hefty discipline which I’m sure is playing a roll in some degree on whether charges should be pursued. It’s ugly no matter how you look at it and there’s no place for it.
 
That was a crazy scene, Garrett obviously snapped. Should make for an interesting rematch when they play again in a few weeks.

I can see where Rudolph could have a civil case for assault and even criminal charges. He doesn’t come to work with the expectation of being whacked in the head with a helmet.

Roofers swing hammers all day, but if one worker gets pissed at another worker and decides to whack him in the head with his hammer, wouldn’t that be grounds for both civil and criminal charges? I can’t see that situation not being escalated into the courts, why should it be any different just because football is a sport?

Not saying I would agree with Rudolph filing a lawsuit against Garrett, just thinking that if this had happened in any other situation in the workplace the person on the receiving end of would most certainly pursue damages.
 
Titansman1 said:
That was a crazy scene, Garrett obviously snapped. Should make for an interesting rematch when they play again in a few weeks.

I can see where Rudolph could have a civil case for assault and even criminal charges. He doesn’t come to work with the expectation of being whacked in the head with a helmet.

Roofers swing hammers all day, but if one worker gets pissed at another worker and decides to whack him in the head with his hammer, wouldn’t that be grounds for both civil and criminal charges? I can’t see that situation not being escalated into the courts, why should it be any different just because football is a sport?

Not saying I would agree with Rudolph filing a lawsuit against Garrett, just thinking that if this had happened in any other situation in the workplace the person on the receiving end of would most certainly pursue damages.
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Mason has already said he won’t file charges.

I personally think if he did, his reputation would be tarnished with players in the league
 
Dee said:
Mason has already said he won’t file charges.

I personally think if he did, his reputation would be tarnished with players in the league
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I don't think he is liked to start with.

All the Titans wanted to fight when Mary would take a hit. Like 3 guys react when Mason gets thumped with his helmet.
 
Tuckfro42 said:
Swinging a helmet is in no way a part of the game. Some of you are getting ridiculous.
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Must not have explained my point well.
We are absolutely in agreement that swinging the helmet is not part of the game, I’m talking about a lawsuit.

If Rudolph were to sue, he probably does have a case, this would open the door to lawsuits over any helmet to helmet hit/injury occurred.
I don’t for a second believe that our judicial system would see using the helmet as a weapon and using the helmet as a weapon during actual game play as any different. It may be common sense to fans of the game, but between greedy lawyers wanting money and marginal players that don’t necessarily make millions, I could see that being the slippery slope.
Then tackling becomes weaker than it already has.
 
HurrayTitans! said:
Must not have explained my point well.
We are absolutely in agreement that swinging the helmet is not part of the game, I’m talking about a lawsuit.

If Rudolph were to sue, he probably does have a case, this would open the door to lawsuits over any helmet to helmet hit/injury occurred.
I don’t for a second believe that our judicial system would see using the helmet as a weapon and using the helmet as a weapon during actual game play as any different. It may be common sense to fans of the game, but between greedy lawyers wanting money and marginal players that don’t necessarily make millions, I could see that being the slippery slope.
Then tackling becomes weaker than it already has.
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has a nfl player ever sued another nfl player for something that happened during a game?
 
Dee said:
has a nfl player ever sued another nfl player for something that happened during a game?
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Im leaning towards no?

I know players have sued the league tho..

Zek, and all those names on the CTE case...
 
JCBRAVE said:
Im leaning towards no?

I know players have sued the league tho..

Zek, and all those names on the CTE case...
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Yea because you sue another person in your fraternity, good luck going into any locker room in the league

Looked at like a snitch


I’m talking strictly on field stuff
 
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Dee said:
Yea because you sue another person in your fraternity, good look going into any locker room in the league

Looked at like a snitch


I’m talking strictly on field stuff
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Yea thats my feeling on things too

The football field is a sacred space
 
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