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But not because it was dirty. He pulled the ole’ WR cry about a penalty and didn’t get it proving my point even more that there was no penalty to be called AND the ref had more than enough time to drop it if he felt it was.
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But not because it was dirty. He pulled the ole’ WR cry about a penalty and didn’t get it proving my point even more that there was no penalty to be called AND the ref had more than enough time to drop it if he felt it was.You might want to watch again. #71 throws his hands up asking for the flag as soon as the takedown happens. A flag would have been thrown. Not sure why you are arguing this point.
See my above editBut not because it was dirty. He pulled the ole’ WR cry about a penalty and didn’t get it proving my point even more that there was no penalty to be called AND the ref had more than enough time to drop it if he felt it was.
What would be the point then, at that point it looked like it was done, when Garrett turns away from Rudolph. When Rudolph charges afterwards, this is like a new fight after the game is completely over.You might want to watch again. #71 throws his hands up asking for the flag as soon as the takedown happens. A flag would have been thrown. Not sure why you are arguing this point.
I also don’t see a flag thrown when Garrett hits Rudolph with the helmet, nor when Pouncey is beating on Garrett.
We will never know, will we? Everything escalated too quickly. Bottom line is you cannot definitively say that it wasn’t a penalty. I can say that a hit like that would be called a penalty in every instance over the past 5 seasons.What would be the point then, at that point it looked like it was done, when Garrett turns away from Rudolph. When Rudolph charges afterwards, this is like a new fight after the game is completely over.
The point is that Rudolph was mad, decastro can wave his hands for a flag all day, the league has made weaker calls than that, so why not complain I guess. Bottom line, it wasn’t a penalty.
I agree those have been called before and generally have fans disagreeing with the call but what I was saying is there was no intention by the ref to throw a flag on that particular play.We will never know, will we? Everything escalated too quickly. Bottom line is you cannot definitively say that it wasn’t a penalty. I can say that a hit like that would be called a penalty in every instance over the past 5 seasons.
Laying on the QB is what got us to this point
We will never know, will we? Everything escalated too quickly. Bottom line is you cannot definitively say that it wasn’t a penalty. I can say that a hit like that would be called a penalty in every instance over the past 5 seasons.
Myles has a dirty history of doing this too muchso that doesn’t happen as part of a tackle in a pile?
It would be super odd. It would be the first documented ref that chose to intervene between players before dropping the flag if he felt it was flag worthy.
He had plenty of time to throw it, watch the video again on how slow the “tackle” on Rudolph was. You can also see the lack of reaction by the ref as it’s happening and the 2 OL because no one thought the take down was dirty.
After on the ground, Rudolph starts pulling at the back/bottom of Garrett’s helmet.
There are 2 posted videos in this thread that show all of this.
Separately, what does the fine at another point in time prove? Completely irrelevant to this case.
Myles has a dirty history of doing this too much
Im not biased at all towards himand that is relevant to this incident how?
You just admit that you're biased with a statement such as that.
Has NO bearing on whether Rudolph and others have some culpability in this incident.
You need to rewatch the “tackle”. Garrett doesn’t even land on top of him. Rudolph is pulled down on top of Garrett then kind of rolls to the side where Rudolph is reaching around Garrett’s helmet to pull it off. He pulled hard enough that Garrett’s helmet almost came off, Thanos gauntlet style, when “quill” aka decastro pulls Garrett back.Not really. The initial hit was fine. No ref would have an issue with that. Even the twisting around would have been ok if he eventually let him go. The ref would not have an issue with that either. The issue is when he finishes the tackle and he lands on top of him. That was absolutely roughing the passer by the book, but immediately after they hit the ground, Mason starts pulling and grabbing at Garrett's helmet. There was at most 2 full seconds between the time they hit the ground and when the Ref started breaking up the fight.
And let's remember, refs miss calls all the time. So just because it isn't called doesn't mean it shouldn't have.
No. Not at all do I think Rudolph was even remotely thinking about that. I think he was pissed that he got sacked the 2 plays before that one and got take. Down for a third straight play on what equaled a super s***ty night for him. He was frustrated and tried to pick a fight. He lost.For one, Garrett doesn't get the benefit of the doubt when he's developed a history as a dirty player.
Secondly, players remember these events. You don't think Mason wasn't keenly aware Garrett ended Seimian's season due to a late hit?
That may be true, just not in this instance.Im not biased at all towards him
The guy starts stuff all the time, simple as that. The extra stuff is what got Rudolph going after him to begin with