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abc2330 said:
There is an annual QB "tier" ranking released each year in which 55 executives and coaches are asked to provide input on all starting QBs. So basically, the entire league is covered. And it was general consensus that Marcus was a third tier QB, meaning the team would be alright with a good run game and defense, and would struggle if they required more from the QB position. 1 individual thought that he was better than that, a few thought that he was even worse. That doesn't sound like a player that other teams value enough to pay a pick for, in addition to a significant salary.
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I think the salary is the bigger deterrent. Again, in a trade deal, we would probably have to pay some/a lot/whatever.

I’m sure in that tier ranking Matt Moore was not put above MM which brings up almost the exact example I was using. Point is, there are teams with hurt starters and could be playoff teams but if a backup has to play for extended amount of time, I could see a trade offer happening (again, with salary at least largely paid by Tennessee) Not saying it’s going to, I’m saying if it does, to take it.
 
So I'm reading that we would get a comp pick if we let Mary walk... What round would that be? May just be better off keeping the bum and taking our comp pick.
 
HurrayTitans! said:
So Derek Carr would be out there. Who knows, maybe we go after Winston. Lol.
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From the article regarding those 2 you mentioned

3. Tampa Bay Buccaneers
The Buccaneers had a decision to make with the No. 1 pick in the 2015 NFL Draft, and they chose Jameis Winston. Like Mariota, the aforementioned No. 2 pick in that draft by the Titans, Winston is playing out the fifth year option on his rookie contract this year and is absolutely not going to be back in Tampa Bay next year. With the increased benefit of hindsight, Tampa Bay needed a young quarterback and was stuck making a decision between two options who were questionable for very different reasons.

For the rest of this season, with only Ryan Griffin and his zero career regular season snaps currently behind Winston on the depth chart, Buccaneers’ head coach Bruce Arians knows he is stuck with his erratic starting quarterback. But a reset under center is coming for 2020, perhaps with a rookie and an experienced veteran in tandem as Arians surely won’t want to commit to a rebuild.

It would be some level of epic trolling on Tampa Bay’s part to, at least theoretically, immediately replace Winston with Mariota. But as they look for veteran options at quarterback next March, Mariota will stand out to some degree.

4. Oakland Raiders
Despite surprisingly being 3-2 coming off their Week 6 bye, the Raiders don’t have a real commitment to quarterback Derek Carr beyond this season. If he is cut before June 1, 2020, Oakland clears $16.5 million in cap space with only a $5 million dead money hit next year (according to Over The Cap). So the winds of change are blowing, until further notice.

Drafting a quarterback next April feels like a foregone conclusion for Oakland, as they look for some star power with their move to Las Vegas. But adding a cheaper veteran signal caller seems likely too, assuming Carr is not retained.

During the 2015 pre-draft process, as could be expected rooted in the “QB Camp” series he did with quarterback prospects while working for ESPN, Gruden had praise for Mariota.

Now that Mariota has an NFL resume, lackluster as it is, it’s at best unclear if Gruden still thinks highly of him. But the Raiders are in line to have a spot on the depth chart available, and that’s enough to tie Mariota to them right now.
 
I really hope we trade Mariota to the Bears , just read that his old head coach Helfrich from Oregon is the OC . That would be his best shot at getting back on track . He’s a great kid and he deserves it . I will ALWAYS have his back .
 
nbtoppers2 said:
Nobody is trading for his salary and his turtle ass taking sacks.
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Yep, his salary is the absolute killer. Unless we were willing to eat most of his salary, which why would we do that?

No team in their right minds (excluding the Titans) is going to pay Mariota 20mil to be the lame duck he has been.
 
Ontario Titan said:
From the article regarding those 2 you mentioned

3. Tampa Bay Buccaneers
The Buccaneers had a decision to make with the No. 1 pick in the 2015 NFL Draft, and they chose Jameis Winston. Like Mariota, the aforementioned No. 2 pick in that draft by the Titans, Winston is playing out the fifth year option on his rookie contract this year and is absolutely not going to be back in Tampa Bay next year. With the increased benefit of hindsight, Tampa Bay needed a young quarterback and was stuck making a decision between two options who were questionable for very different reasons.

For the rest of this season, with only Ryan Griffin and his zero career regular season snaps currently behind Winston on the depth chart, Buccaneers’ head coach Bruce Arians knows he is stuck with his erratic starting quarterback. But a reset under center is coming for 2020, perhaps with a rookie and an experienced veteran in tandem as Arians surely won’t want to commit to a rebuild.

It would be some level of epic trolling on Tampa Bay’s part to, at least theoretically, immediately replace Winston with Mariota. But as they look for veteran options at quarterback next March, Mariota will stand out to some degree.

4. Oakland Raiders
Despite surprisingly being 3-2 coming off their Week 6 bye, the Raiders don’t have a real commitment to quarterback Derek Carr beyond this season. If he is cut before June 1, 2020, Oakland clears $16.5 million in cap space with only a $5 million dead money hit next year (according to Over The Cap). So the winds of change are blowing, until further notice.

Drafting a quarterback next April feels like a foregone conclusion for Oakland, as they look for some star power with their move to Las Vegas. But adding a cheaper veteran signal caller seems likely too, assuming Carr is not retained.

During the 2015 pre-draft process, as could be expected rooted in the “QB Camp” series he did with quarterback prospects while working for ESPN, Gruden had praise for Mariota.

Now that Mariota has an NFL resume, lackluster as it is, it’s at best unclear if Gruden still thinks highly of him. But the Raiders are in line to have a spot on the depth chart available, and that’s enough to tie Mariota to them right now.
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Hopefully Gruden is stupid enough, but I seriously doubt it. Gruden wasnt the only one who thought Mariota had an NFL future... we drafted him after all.
 
nytitaner said:
Slim chance but someone else thinks it’s remotely possible NFL trade deadline: One buy/sell proposal for each AFC team
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Well that says we should sell Mariota, no doubt about it, but doesn't say if anyone would actually buy Mariota.

thats like saying I have a broken down pinto for sell. Sure, if someone is willing to give me cash, they can tow it home, but first I have to find someone willing to pay for a broken down pinto.
 
Titan4Ever said:
Im not saying he is the answer. I'm just saying he didn't deserve to be benched and that Tanny is no better.
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How much more time did you want to give him? He’s had five years and he’s still completely ineffective. And yes, Tanny is WAY better.

Not saying Tanny is the long term answer either, and he has been known to be inconsistent and injury prone too but I have never seen Mariota rifle the ball into tight windows like that, lead his receiver or make confident decisions without hesitation like Tanny did last week.

Plus Tanny has completed full 16 games seasons 3-4 times with 24-27TDs and 4000 yards. Mariota has had zero.
 
Titansman1 said:
How much more time did you want to give him? He’s had five years and he’s still completely ineffective. And yes, Tanny is WAY better.

Not saying Tanny is the long term answer either, and he has been known to be inconsistent and injury prone too but I have never seen Mariota rifle the ball into tight windows like that, lead his receiver or make confident decisions without hesitation like Tanny did last week.

Plus Tanny has completed full 16 games seasons 3-4 times with 24-27TDs and 4000 yards. Mariota has had zero.
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If you havent seen mariota make those throws then your either blind as ray charles or just blinded by hate. He has made wayyyy harder throws than Tanny did last game
 
Titan4Ever said:
If you havent seen mariota make those throws then your either blind as ray charles or just blinded by hate. He has made wayyyy harder throws than Tanny did last game
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Ok, I give up. You’re right, Mariota is a stud that threads the needle on the regular and once he gets picked up by a team that knows how to utilize him, he will lead them to multiple SBs?:madcow:
 
Titan4Ever said:
Falcons game mariota played 3 times better than tanny just played
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First off, the Falcon defense is ranked 27th, and the Chargers is 11th.

Mariota vs 27th ranked D:
18/27, 227 yards 66.6% 3 TDs

Tannehill vs 11th ranked D:
23/29, 312 yards 79.1% 2 TDs 1INT

I'm no math whiz, but I think you're just talking out your @ss
 
Tricky said:
First off, the Falcon defense is ranked 27th, and the Chargers is 11th.

Mariota vs 27th ranked D:
18/27, 227 yards 66.6% 3 TDs

Tannehill vs 11th ranked D:
23/29, 312 yards 79.1% 2 TDs 1INT

I'm no math whiz, but I think you're just talking out your @ss
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We not going to include we just ran the second half of the falcons game??
 
Sirclubbs said:
We not going to include we just ran the second half of the falcons game??
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2nd half was 8 runs/8passes until the 7:10 mark of the 4th qtr. that particular drive had 10 runs to 1 pass and took the game under 2:00. That was the official run out the clock and end the game drive.

Edit: my mistake, I accidentally counted the MM run/fumble as a pass. It was 9/7. Coincidently, MM went 3/7 in the second half.
 
Tricky said:
First off, the Falcon defense is ranked 27th, and the Chargers is 11th.

Mariota vs 27th ranked D:
18/27, 227 yards 66.6% 3 TDs

Tannehill vs 11th ranked D:
23/29, 312 yards 79.1% 2 TDs 1INT

I'm no math whiz, but I think you're just talking out your @ss
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We had 3 75+ yard drives against LA.

We had one the entire year with Mariota.

That's how you win football games. Keep your offense on the field and an opposing HOF QB off the field.

No matter the points scored or the stats produced, the offense was the best it's been the entire year
 
HurrayTitans! said:
2nd half was 8 runs/8passes until the 7:10 mark of the 4th qtr. that particular drive had 10 runs to 1 pass and took the game under 2:00. That was the official run out the clock and end the game drive.

Edit: my mistake, I accidentally counted the MM run/fumble as a pass. It was 9/7. Coincidently, MM went 3/7 in the second half.
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I mean if you want 300 yard games you got to throw the ball...
 
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