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Stay on topic of what the thread is people. This is a simple concept. I’ve done nothing but delete posts in this thread because people can’t help themselves and find the need to turn every thread into bashing Mariota. There’s plenty of other threads for that. If you can’t stay on topic your posts will be deleted and you will get hit with a warning.
 
By way of the question in the title, what do you mean STILL be a significant factor? Has he ever really been a significant factor?
 
By way of the question in the title, what do you mean STILL be a significant factor? Has he ever really been a significant factor?
He showed signs he might be someday in his rookie year.
But no actually, and he ain't there yet.

With Brown on the roster I doubt he ever will be.
Jennings has speed and Brown has the physicality and the after catch moves, and ran a faster 40 than Taylor.
Throw in the unreliability factor and Taylor's days should be numbered.
At least Sharpe has reliable hands and the awareness to know where the first down marker is. I would understand them keeping Sharpe and letting Taylor go if they decide to move that direction.
 
By way of the question in the title, what do you mean STILL be a significant factor? Has he ever really been a significant factor?
Well for one thing I did not use the word significant to describe Taylor's role in the offense. I merely stated that he had a role that made him a factor in the offense. The problem arised when we saw he couldn't do it consistently. However that doesn't change the fact that he was a factor on certain downs that required explosive plays. It is pretty obvious that he will encounter a reduced role this season. I'm asking if people still see value in him or think he is not needed.
 
He showed signs he might be someday in his rookie year.
But no actually, and he ain't there yet.

With Brown on the roster I doubt he ever will be.
Jennings has speed and Brown has the physicality and the after catch moves, and ran a faster 40 than Taylor.
Throw in the unreliability factor and Taylor's days should be numbered.
At least Sharpe has reliable hands and the awareness to know where the first down marker is. I would understand them keeping Sharpe and letting Taylor go if they decide to move that direction.
Sharpe adds absolutely nothing to the receiving corps in my opinion. He isn't physical, not a good contested catcher, not quick or a threat to run past defenders. He isn't going to create much YAC. He is very much a body catcher because of his small hands. I've never been more lower on Sharpe than I am today. I would take Taylor over him any day. Taylor's biggest strength is his ability to create separation. I can work with that.
 
He showed signs he might be someday in his rookie year.
But no actually, and he ain't there yet.

With Brown on the roster I doubt he ever will be.
Jennings has speed and Brown has the physicality and the after catch moves, and ran a faster 40 than Taylor.
Throw in the unreliability factor and Taylor's days should be numbered.
At least Sharpe has reliable hands and the awareness to know where the first down marker is. I would understand them keeping Sharpe and letting Taylor go if they decide to move that direction.

Yeah, it's gonna interesting to see how this plays out. Taylor is 'faster' than his 40 due to his acceleration and quickness on cuts. He has the makings of a dynamic wr except for his hands and possibly ball tracking. Guys who drop deep passes either have poor hands or have a difficult time tracking the ball over long distance. Can't tell which it is with him.

But Sharpe is kind of the opposite. Higher floor but lower ceiling. I tend to think they'll take the upside guy (since they have at least 3 players to start in front of Taylor) over the higher floor guy but special teams play may be the biggest difference maker.

I think if Taylor wants to make a big impact, he needs to work on his hands and work on punt and kick return and plead with the coaches to give him a chance...especially at punt return. He'd also have to be a gunner most likely.
 
Well for one thing I did not use the word significant to describe Taylor's role in the offense. I merely stated that he had a role that made him a factor in the offense. The problem arised when we saw he couldn't do it consistently. However that doesn't change the fact that he was a factor on certain downs that required explosive plays. It is pretty obvious that he will encounter a reduced role this season. I'm asking if people still see value in him or think he is not needed.

Theoretically...both! If Brown can come in and win the #2 spot, then our top 3 spots are locked. But Brown isn't automatic and if he doesn't win the job outright, Taylor may get reps at #2 or slot while Brown adjust to the NFL and the playbook. So he MIGHT be needed. Also, we'll want to spell guys but that will also go to what our primary base formation is. If we run mostly 2 wr sets, the 4th wr isn't gonna play much so special teams will be huge. If we go to a 3 wr set as our base formation, he'll get a lot more snaps backing up and filling in (and we'd keep another wr on the roster).

Most likely, the Titans take the conservative route and stick to 2 wr sets which reduces his role and his snaps...which is why I think him working on his hands (to compete for #2 wr) and special teams work (especially at punt returner) will be very important for him.
 
Theoretically...both! If Brown can come in and win the #2 spot, then our top 3 spots are locked. But Brown isn't automatic and if he doesn't win the job outright, Taylor may get reps at #2 or slot while Brown adjust to the NFL and the playbook. So he MIGHT be needed. Also, we'll want to spell guys but that will also go to what our primary base formation is. If we run mostly 2 wr sets, the 4th wr isn't gonna play much so special teams will be huge. If we go to a 3 wr set as our base formation, he'll get a lot more snaps backing up and filling in (and we'd keep another wr on the roster).

Most likely, the Titans take the conservative route and stick to 2 wr sets which reduces his role and his snaps...which is why I think him working on his hands (to compete for #2 wr) and special teams work (especially at punt returner) will be very important for him.
I would be massively disappointed if we did the most Titans thing ever and deploy a heavy 2 wr set as our base formation just to establish Derrick Henry as our main weapon. To many weapons right now in the passing game to do that. I hope that won't be the case with elevating a TEs coach to OC
 
Yeah, it's gonna interesting to see how this plays out. Taylor is 'faster' than his 40 due to his acceleration and quickness on cuts. He has the makings of a dynamic wr except for his hands and possibly ball tracking. Guys who drop deep passes either have poor hands or have a difficult time tracking the ball over long distance. Can't tell which it is with him.

But Sharpe is kind of the opposite. Higher floor but lower ceiling. I tend to think they'll take the upside guy (since they have at least 3 players to start in front of Taylor) over the higher floor guy but special teams play may be the biggest difference maker.

I think if Taylor wants to make a big impact, he needs to work on his hands and work on punt and kick return and plead with the coaches to give him a chance...especially at punt return. He'd also have to be a gunner most likely.
Taylor had nearly 1,000 yards during his senior season alone on passes which traveled 20+ yards. There isn't some fundamental issue with him which will prevent him from catching balls downfield. His issues are consistent with that of a young player. Some guys never really get "it", but many go from experiencing the same struggles to having great success. Talent certainly isn't the issue, but we can't really bank on him improving, and Brown is great insurance if he doesn't. And if he does, that's certainly a good thing.
 
There is no one on the roster who stretches the field more for the Titans than Taylor. So, IMO, he's already a factor and can be a major one if he can begin to pull down more deep passes.
 
I would be massively disappointed if we did the most Titans thing ever and deploy a heavy 2 wr set as our base formation just to establish Derrick Henry as our main weapon. To many weapons right now in the passing game to do that. I hope that won't be the case with elevating a TEs coach to OC

Not to mention, that makes signing a slot receiver on the first day of FA a really dumb thing to do.

I would be extremely annoyed to see a lot of 2 wr sets this year.
 
Not to mention, that makes signing a slot receiver on the first day of FA a really dumb thing to do.

I would be extremely annoyed to see a lot of 2 wr sets this year.
I think the fact that acquiring Hump was the first move JonRob made once the tampering period started is PrimaFacie evidence that all the narratives about what Vrabel intends to do this season are false.
I have no doubt they'll run Henry, but they know they can't ride him into the ground early in the season.
But this team hasn't had a dedicated slot guy since 2016.
 

People act like this guy has no place in the league.

This guy needs to work on his Ts.

I've been a TT believer, and have great hope that he would make a big step forward in 2019.

But as a Titans fan, I have repeatedly learned the old adage that you can hope in one hand and poop in the other, and see which gets full first.

I'm glad with brown that at least we have another option, in case the other doesn't work out, and depth in case of injury.

It's a far cry from the rosters of recent past.
 
I've been a TT believer, and have great hope that he would make a big step forward in 2019.

But as a Titans fan, I have repeatedly learned the old adage that you can hope in one hand and poop in the other, and see which gets full first.

I'm glad with brown that at least we have another option, in case the other doesn't work out, and depth in case of injury.

It's a far cry from the rosters of recent past.
I absolutely agree with this. But his issue is consistency. Not talent. One of those can be overcome with experience, and the other can be elevated with experience. He's headed on the right track. I just hope he reaches his ceiling.
 
I absolutely agree with this. But his issue is consistency. Not talent. One of those can be overcome with experience, and the other can be elevated with experience. He's headed on the right track. I just hope he reaches his ceiling.

It's going to be real hard for TT, CD, or Brown to reach their ceilings until Marcus or the next guy reaches theirs.

I honestly thing the last couple years, both positions have been retarding the growth of the other. Maybe this is the year it takes off.
 
Taylor had nearly 1,000 yards during his senior season alone on passes which traveled 20+ yards. There isn't some fundamental issue with him which will prevent him from catching balls downfield. His issues are consistent with that of a young player. Some guys never really get "it", but many go from experiencing the same struggles to having great success. Talent certainly isn't the issue, but we can't really bank on him improving, and Brown is great insurance if he doesn't. And if he does, that's certainly a good thing.
Jrob did not use a 2nd round pick as insurance for if Taylor doesnt improve. Brown has his role in place and unless he struggles with the playbook this team is not going into next year relying on Taylor to start opposite Davis.
 
Jrob did not use a 2nd round pick as insurance for if Taylor doesnt improve. Brown has his role in place and unless he struggles with the playbook this team is not going into next year relying on Taylor to start opposite Davis.
So the same team who apparentLy got it wrong with Taylor, got it right with Brown??? How did they become so much better at evaluating players?
 
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