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Ravensmaniac2 said:
Okay I will play along. You obviously do not watch many if any Ravens games or follow stats closely.

Lamar Jackson 5 TDs THROWN week one against Miami
Lamar Jackson 3 TDs THROWN week four against Cleveland
Lamar Jacksson 3 TDs THROWN week ten against the Bengals
Lamar Jackson 4 TDs THROWN week 11 against Houston
Lamar Jackson 5 TDs THROWN week 12 against LA Rams
Lamar Jackson 3 TDs THROWN week 14 against Buffalo
Lamar Jackson 5 TDs THROWN week 15 against NY Jets
Lamar Jackson 3 TDs THROWN week 16 against Cleveland

Lamar Jackson only the SECOND QB in the HISTORY of the NFL to have three games in the same season where he threw for 5 TDs. The other was Peyton Manning.

Lamar Jackson 36 TDs thrown in the regular season which LED the NFL. Oh but his weakness according to you is he can't throw or make him throw. You obviously are super clueless. Finally, for you to even compare Marcus Mariota to Jackson, and think all teams need to do is defend Jackson as they would Mariota is laughable. Mariota does not have the speed, power or elusiveness of Lamar Jackson. But thanks for playing, we have a nice consolation prize for you.
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I’ll give Lamar credit for his TDs this season, his TD % is through the roof, like way past average but also an unrealistic sustainable level. No one knows when that will taper off back to average BUT:
In the 5 games he threw more than 30 times, he totaled 8 TD. (2 of those were the losses and 2 more were 1 possession wins) Way less than his season average. He also had a lower comp %.
Also note that despite a pass happy league and his monster TD #, he had only 1 300 yard game passing.

He’s not a great passer and teams are doing the right thing by forcing him to throw.

Baltimore is a run first team and thrives off the success of Jackson’s legs as well as Ingram, not his arm.

Force him to pass and this game should get a lot closer in favor of Tennessee.
 
The Ravens offense will have success against this defense. I think one of the keys for the Titans will be to force the Ravens to settle for field goals instead of scoring touchdowns. Last week, the Patriots were 1/3 in their trips into the redzone and that made the difference in the game.

However, this is easier said than done as i believe the Ravens are one of, in not, the best redzone offense in the NFL while the Titans had one of the worst redzone defenses.
 
HurrayTitans! said:
I’ll give Lamar credit for his TDs this season, his TD % is through the roof, like way past average but also an unrealistic sustainable level. No one knows when that will taper off back to average BUT:
In the 5 games he threw more than 30 times, he totaled 8 TD. (2 of those were the losses and 2 more were 1 possession wins) Way less than his season average. He also had a lower comp %.
Also note that despite a pass happy league and his monster TD #, he had only 1 300 yard game passing.

He’s not a great passer and teams are doing the right thing by forcing him to throw.

Baltimore is a run first team and thrives off the success of Jackson’s legs as well as Ingram, not his arm.

Force him to pass and this game should get a lot closer in favor of Tennessee.
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It will truly be a pick your poison for the Titans on Saturday night regarding Jackson legs and his arm. You'll see Saturday night.
 
Ravensmaniac2 said:
Okay I will play along. You obviously do not watch many if any Ravens games or follow stats closely.

Lamar Jackson 5 TDs THROWN week one against Miami
Lamar Jackson 3 TDs THROWN week four against Cleveland
Lamar Jacksson 3 TDs THROWN week ten against the Bengals
Lamar Jackson 4 TDs THROWN week 11 against Houston
Lamar Jackson 5 TDs THROWN week 12 against LA Rams
Lamar Jackson 3 TDs THROWN week 14 against Buffalo
Lamar Jackson 5 TDs THROWN week 15 against NY Jets
Lamar Jackson 3 TDs THROWN week 16 against Cleveland

Lamar Jackson only the SECOND QB in the HISTORY of the NFL to have three games in the same season where he threw for 5 TDs. The other was Peyton Manning.

Lamar Jackson 36 TDs thrown in the regular season which LED the NFL. Oh but his weakness according to you is he can't throw or make him throw. You obviously are super clueless. Finally, for you to even compare Marcus Mariota to Jackson, and think all teams need to do is defend Jackson as they would Mariota is laughable. Mariota does not have the speed, power or elusiveness of Lamar Jackson. But thanks for playing, we have a nice consolation prize for you.
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Yea.. I figured you would go with TD passes and not yards or yards per attempt. I will agree with you that Lamar Jackson is a better runner than Mariota. That’s just my point. He is a running back that occasionalY throws the ball. He has only had 3 games where he threw the ball for more than 250 yards. Jeff Fisher would be proud.


Yards per game average 195. That’s Mariota stuff. Lamar Jackson isn’t a threat through the air. He is just another guy. He is a running back playing QB. In the NFL that won’t last long. You have had a great season. But it won’t last. Throw all the nice stats about TDS you want. Mary had games like that too.

Enjoy it. You may very well win it all this year. But don’t go around acting like Lamar Jackson is passing QB He isn’t He is a running back running a wildcat Type college system
 
My question is, is our run D good enough to stop their run game? We played well against the Pats, but our run D has taken a step back this year. It's not as good as it has been in the last year or two.
 
TitanMark said:
Yea.. I figured you would go with TD passes and not yards or yards per attempt. I will agree with you that Lamar Jackson is a better runner than Mariota. That’s just my point. He is a running back that occasionalY throws the ball. He has only had 3 games where he threw the ball for more than 250 yards. Jeff Fisher would be proud.


Yards per game average 195. That’s Mariota stuff. Lamar Jackson isn’t a threat through the air. He is just another guy. He is a running back playing QB. In the NFL that won’t last long. You have had a great season. But it won’t last. Throw all the nice stats about TDS you want. Mary had games like that too.

Enjoy it. You may very well win it all this year. But don’t go around acting like Lamar Jackson is passing QB He isn’t He is a running back running a wildcat Type college system
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guessing you haven't watched much of his film. He is a pocket passer that happens to be a cheat code with his legs.
Really looking forward to the primetime show.
 
TitanMark said:
Yea.. I figured you would go with TD passes and not yards or yards per attempt. I will agree with you that Lamar Jackson is a better runner than Mariota. That’s just my point. He is a running back that occasionalY throws the ball. He has only had 3 games where he threw the ball for more than 250 yards. Jeff Fisher would be proud.


Yards per game average 195. That’s Mariota stuff. Lamar Jackson isn’t a threat through the air. He is just another guy. He is a running back playing QB. In the NFL that won’t last long. You have had a great season. But it won’t last. Throw all the nice stats about TDS you want. Mary had games like that too.

Enjoy it. You may very well win it all this year. But don’t go around acting like Lamar Jackson is passing QB He isn’t He is a running back running a wildcat Type college system
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What the Ravens run is far from a wildcat offense, so right off the bat you have no idea what you're talking about. Then you say he is a "running back who occasionally throws"?? Well 36 TDs that led the NFL to only 6 INTS, and 3,127 yards passing says otherwise. And Jackson did not play in week 17 against Pittsburgh, otherwise those numbers would be even better. By comparrison, both Tannehill & Mariota threw for a COMBINED 3,945 yards, so Jackson did not do too shabby for a "running back" masquerading as a QB. Yards per average passing: Tannehill 228.5, Jackson 208.5 and Mariota 171.9. Your point here is what exactly??
 
Ravensmaniac2 said:
What the Ravens run is far from a wildcat offense, so right off the bat you have no idea what you're talking about. Then you say he is a "running back who occasionally throws"?? Well 36 TDs that led the NFL to only 6 INTS, and 3,127 yards passing says otherwise. And Jackson did not play in week 17 against Pittsburgh, otherwise those numbers would be even better. By comparrison, both Tannehill & Mariota threw for a COMBINED 3,945 yards, so Jackson did not do too shabby for a "running back" masquerading as a QB. Yards per average passing: Tannehill 228.5, Jackson 208.5 and Mariota 171.9. Your point here is what exactly??
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Yes I am oversimplifying it by calling it a wildcat offense. But you are dead wrong about Tannehill vs Jackson. Please don’t embarrass yourself by comparing the 2 as passers Tannehill is the 2nd rated passer in the league and a far better passer than Jackson. He threw 2700 yards in 10 games not 15. He would have thrown for more than 4000 in a full season based in averages I don’t know where you got that 228 stat but Tannehill averaged 275 per game with a 70% completion rate. As a passer Lamar is a lot closer to Mariota than he is Tannehill. Like I said. I expect the Titans to lose I don’t think they can shut down other run game. But if you think Jackson is a pocket passer than can beat anybody through the air you are delusional. Once the Ravens get behind they are in trouble. If the Titans can accomplish that and keep Jackson in the pocket you guys are screwed. With no Ingram or a severely limited Ingram you guys become the Patriots. Making the Ravens pass evens out the game. I’m just not sure the Titans can do that.
 
wrench248 said:
The Ravens offense will have success against this defense. I think one of the keys for the Titans will be to force the Ravens to settle for field goals instead of scoring touchdowns. Last week, the Patriots were 1/3 in their trips into the redzone and that made the difference in the game.

However, this is easier said than done as i believe the Ravens are one of, in not, the best redzone offense in the NFL while the Titans had one of the worst redzone defenses.
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Titans had the best TD red zone offensive scoring all year, and this includes the games Mariota flopped in, or it would be even higher.

Offensive Redzone Scoring (TDs Only)
TITANS 76.60% - Home 81.82% Away 72%
RAVENS 67.19% - Home 62.96% Away 70.27%

Defensive Redzone Scoring (TDs Only)
TITANS 1.9 - Home 2.2 Away 1.7
RAVENS 1.3 - Home 1.4 Away 1.2

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For comparison the Pats had a more impressive D in a game the Titans were supposed to lose.

Defensive Redzone Scoring (TDs Only)
PATRIOTS 0.9 Home 0.7 Away 1.2
 
We need the Ratbirds to be a little rusty to match the Titans notoriously slow starts. If the Titans keep it within 10 by the half, they have a real shot.

Obviously, the team who makes the fewest mistakes and wins the trenches will win but, if Henry get 25 touches in this game, I like our chances.
 
TitanMark said:
Yes I am oversimplifying it by calling it a wildcat offense. But you are dead wrong about Tannehill vs Jackson. Please don’t embarrass yourself by comparing the 2 as passers Tannehill is the 2nd rated passer in the league and a far better passer than Jackson. He threw 2700 yards in 10 games not 15. He would have thrown for more than 4000 in a full season based in averages I don’t know where you got that 228 stat but Tannehill averaged 275 per game with a 70% completion rate. As a passer Lamar is a lot closer to Mariota than he is Tannehill. Like I said. I expect the Titans to lose I don’t think they can shut down other run game. But if you think Jackson is a pocket passer than can beat anybody through the air you are delusional. Once the Ravens get behind they are in trouble. If the Titans can accomplish that and keep Jackson in the pocket you guys are screwed. With no Ingram or a severely limited Ingram you guys become the Patriots. Making the Ravens pass evens out the game. I’m just not sure the Titans can do that.
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Tannehill has had a nice season or more of a 'rebirth' with Tennessee. Prior to that, he was to say the least, very pedestrian. I hope he comes out trying to throw the ball all over the place on the Ravens secondary. It will not end well for him I have a feeling. Regardless of what you continue to say about Jackson's passing ability, it doesn't hold an ounce of water. You know it, I know it and anyone that follows the NFL this year knows it. Stats and numbers on Jackson's season shoot more holes in your argument than moths on clothes. But of course you would rather have Tannehill than Jackson right? LOL! Jackson has proven he can beat teams with his arm - SEE Buffalo game! And to some extent, the 49ers game. 49ers not so much in his overall passing stats that game, but rather the type of throws and when he made them against the Niners.

Ravens get behind? Not sure what they will do considering they are almost never behind. So, I guess we will see on that front. My money tells me that Jackson can lead the Ravens if they trail a game. If he can throw 3 or 4 or 5 TDs in a game they are leading, he surely can do the same if the Ravens are trailing by 10 or more points. Finally, you are more than wrong regarding if Ingram cannot play or limited then the Ravens become the Patriots. I guess you forgot about our other RBs as well as our three TEs. If there are three better in the league, I sure as hell would like to know who and what team. Our WRs have been clutch and catch the ball when targeted. The Titans will still need to account for 'Hollywood' Brown regardless.
 
As the saying goes, on any Given Sunday, or in this case Saturday.

The more people that are predicting the Ravens to win by 17-24 points the more confident I am feeling. Upsets happen, its not likely, but possible. If the Ravens take the Titans lightly, or look past them they're in for a big surprise.

It's the playoffs, the regular season means nothing.
 
Afc46 said:
All-22 Review: Winter Storm Henry blows through New England and into the divisional round

Great article ...
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Very good.

Echoes what I said the other day that the Titans had several plays that were near catches, and I think they were 20+ yard routes. An inch or two and some of them would've been caught. Ravens will have to play perfect defense like the Patriots did on those plays. So we shall see...

I expect Tannehill to play much better this game and hit on at least some of those types of plays.
 
I can't wait to see some of the defensive looks that we come out with...I really like the idea of playing a 5-3 with Simmons/Jones/Casey stuffing the middle and Landry and Correa over the TEs then having Brown, Long, Evans as our Lbers with Long in the middle. This puts great speed in Evans and Brown a little bit closer to the sideline to bottle up Lamar....also puts them in better position to cover the TEs coming out on pass routes....Long has great instincts and has 4.45 speed so he can attack the edge or drop into coverage from the center spot... you have to force them to hand the ball off to Ingram up the middle...Let Ingram slowly beat you rather than Lamar quickly.
 
Our weak pass rush won't hurt us too bad this week because the best thing to do is try to mush rush Jackson and keep him in the pocket if possible....racing hell bent after Jackson on the rush will probably end up in Jackson making a big play
 
rock8titans said:
Don't care about those OZ stats, Ravens haven't played a RB like BDH, he's a different animal that's on a roll and dominating anyone and everyone.
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Yep, let him touch up that 2nd level a few times and break their hearts...
 
rock8titans said:
As the saying goes, on any Given Sunday, or in this case Saturday.

The more people that are predicting the Ravens to win by 17-24 points the more confident I am feeling. Upsets happen, its not likely, but possible. If the Ravens take the Titans lightly, or look past them they're in for a big surprise.

It's the playoffs, the regular season means nothing.
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True. That is the beauty of football as opposed to baseball, basketball and hockey. It isn't the best 4 out of 7. It is one game. All you have to be is better than your opponent for ONE game. That is what's meant by the best team does not always win. So true especially in football.
 
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