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I'm ordered Mornings On Horseback by David McCullough. Its a biography on Teddy Roosevelt. I like McCullough's writing style, as it is pretty straight to the point.

I also picked up Mein Kamph, which I have heard is hell to read due to poor translations. However, I believe it is one of the few books that everyone should attempt in their lifetime.
 
Scarecrow said:
I'm ordered Mornings On Horseback by David McCullough. Its a biography on Teddy Roosevelt. I like McCullough's writing style, as it is pretty straight to the point.

I also picked up Mein Kamph, which I have heard is hell to read due to poor translations. However, I believe it is one of the few books that everyone should attempt in their lifetime.
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Where did you get Mein Kamph? And how did you pay for it?
 
Mein kamph recently passed copyright. So you can pick it up anywhere, for free I think.
 
Mein Kamph is a book people read to try to get in the head of the most infamous person in history. But they quit after 60 pages cause its incoherent Bullsh*t.
 
GoT said:
never read a word of Hitler's

why would mein kamp be must read?
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I think most people think Hitler was this untouchable political leader that was larger than life.

In fact, he was the exact opposite. He was just an evil man who got in at the right time. A guy, that stood out in no particular way, became one of the most infamous men ever.

I am a believer in that history tends to repeat itself.
 
Scarecrow said:
I think most people think Hitler was this untouchable political leader that was larger than life.

In fact, he was the exact opposite. He was just an evil man who got in at the right time. A guy, that stood out in no particular way, became one of the most infamous men ever.

I am a believer in that history tends to repeat itself.
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Germany was ripe for a fear/war mongering flamboyant leader to come along and start pounding his fist on the podium and rallying the nation into an aggressive mindset.

The treaty of Versailles virtually insured another war with the Germans at some point and most of the world, save France, thought the treaty was way too harsh. Most of the world had little problem with the Nazi's taking back lands that had been part of the old German Empire. It really wasnt until Germany invaded Poland that Britain and France agreed that it was time to declare war (France wassnt going to declare war by themselves).

The interwar period in Europe is an interesting subject to study. It's very relevant today. Our country is exhibiting many of the same social psychologies that the German people exhibited pre WWII.

The Germans were suffering the many economical and psychological effects of the first world war.. America is suffering many of the same effects from the long and costly Iraq/Afghanistan wars.

Germany was digging their way out of a depression in the early 30's .. America is digging its way out of the 2008 collapse.

German politicians (Hitler wassnt the only one in the beginning) were scapegoating minorities and foreign powers for their economic woes .. America today is right in step.

There is an old saying, "The price of freedom is eternal vigilance". Seems relevant now more than ever.. There is so much fear/war mongering going on right now in America and a good portion of our people are rallying in aggressive support.

All thats needed is for us to elect a maniac, suffer some kind of convenient national tragedy (i.e. the Reichstag fire).. and there's really no limit to what we could do with the biggest, most advanced, and most well funded military the world has ever seen.
 
Razorbacks said:
Germany was ripe for a fear/war mongering flamboyant leader to come along and start pounding his fist on the podium and rallying the nation into an aggressive mindset.

The treaty of Versailles virtually insured another war with the Germans at some point and most of the world, save France, thought the treaty was way too harsh. Most of the world had little problem with the Nazi's taking back lands that had been part of the old German Empire. It really wasnt until Germany invaded Poland that Britain and France agreed that it was time to declare war (France wassnt going to declare war by themselves).

The interwar period in Europe is an interesting subject to study. It's very relevant today. Our country is exhibiting many of the same social psychologies that the German people exhibited pre WWII.

The Germans were suffering the many economical and psychological effects of the first world war.. America is suffering many of the same effects from the long and costly Iraq/Afghanistan wars.

Germany was digging their way out of a depression in the early 30's .. America is digging its way out of the 2008 collapse.

German politicians (Hitler wassnt the only one in the beginning) were scapegoating minorities and foreign powers for their economic woes .. America today is right in step.

There is an old saying, "The price of freedom is eternal vigilance". Seems relevant now more than ever.. There is so much fear/war mongering going on right now in America and a good portion of our people are rallying in aggressive support.

All thats needed is for us to elect a maniac, suffer some kind of convenient national tragedy (i.e. the Reichstag fire).. and there's really no limit to what we could do with the biggest, most advanced, and most well funded military the world has ever seen.
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some real reaches, almost @RollTide reaches, but I get your point.

I disagree almost point to point. Not because you are wrong but the degree.

Take the Germany digging out of a depression point. Totally true. Also true USA is recovering from the 2008 financial crisis. BUT the difference, and IMO a huge one, was the scale of the depressions. The 1930s depression saw horrific social upheavals in society across the globe. With people starving to death in first world countries ect... while the financial crisisi of today saw some people forced out of homes they could not afford. For those families that speculated and lost I guess it pretty real sucked. For the rest of the first world there was a temporary hit to your financial assetts. But only about 50% of Americans have those and well less than that around the globe. Just not nearly the same level of 'crisis' at all
 
GoT said:
some real reaches, almost @RollTide reaches, but I get your point.

I disagree almost point to point. Not because you are wrong but the degree.

Take the Germany digging out of a depression point. Totally true. Also true USA is recovering from the 2008 financial crisis. BUT the difference, and IMO a huge one, was the scale of the depressions. The 1930s depression saw horrific social upheavals in society across the globe. With people starving to death in first world countries ect... while the financial crisisi of today saw some people forced out of homes they could not afford. For those families that speculated and lost I guess it pretty real sucked. For the rest of the first world there was a temporary hit to your financial assetts. But only about 50% of Americans have those and well less than that around the globe. Just not nearly the same level of 'crisis' at all
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Ours may be a lighter shade of a red.. but red none the less.

Im not trying to predict anything or say something will definitely happen. Im just saying, we have a lot of the elements in place for a fascist state. It really wouldnt take much more to push us over the edge.

I think maybe we suffer from a collective "oh but that could never happen to us" complex. "Thats the sort of thing that happens to far away countries that are much more poor"
 
remember when SMTP didn't have GoT on ignore and 'reasonable' exchanges were possible...
 
Recently read 'Tribe' by Sebastian Junger.

@GoT and @Big TT should both really read this book. I actually encourage everyone to pick it up. It is $13 on Amazon and I read it in a few hours. Just a powerful book about society in general. Same guy that wrote War and filmed Restrepo and Korengal.
 
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