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RollTide said:
Maybe the reason BOTH mcnair and volek were more effective in dinger's offense is that we had better more experienced WRs like oh derrick mason? Plus bennett was healthy all 2004.
mcnair was pretty much on par for his career averages in '05. he actually had a better qb rating in '05 than he did in '04.
 
Mcnair in 2005...

2004 was a throw away year for him because of the injury but in dingers offense from 2001-2003 mcnair had an average passing rating of 91 and of course was mvp in 2003. In 2005 it was 82 and while most of us credited that to a decline in ability it had as much to do with personel. That 2003 team was loaded with good Wrs..mason-bennett-mccareins-calico.

If gunny thinks that 24 game appearences is not enough to judge a guy what about one game? Volek only played one game last year. He wasn't horrible either.
 
Bigtitan...

I didn't say they don't count just that he was playing better than that before. Of course they count and i made that exact point about 15 times on these boards to illustrate that mcnair was not playing that bad last season. He didn't play bad last year he just doesn't run that much or as well.

If mason and mcareins were here last season i think you will agree that mcnair's stats would have been better right? Closer to that 91 rating he had when he was at his best. My point is that it wasn't chow's system that caused that.

You are right mcnair was just about as good throwing the ball as he always has been. He didn't have good WRs in 98-2000 and you see similar results to last year.
 
RollTide said:
If mason and mcareins were here last season i think you will agree that mcnair's stats would have been better right?
sure, mason was mac's go to guy. but volek's go to guy was still here, and his numbers still suffered. that was my point.

and by the way, mcareins hasnt done much since he has been gone. i would say mac made him look better than he was.
 
like i said about a page back, volek must have done something to make the coaches feel uncomfortable with him as the starter.

skitch said:
I can't get it to link, but here is the jest of it:

Publicly, Volek put on the best face possible. He said all the right things. He even muzzled uber-agent Drew Rosenhaus, which is like getting Rosie O'Donnell to clam up.

Privately, it's a different story. It hasn't been pretty.

Volek and Fisher had a meeting. There, Fisher critiqued Volek's preseason performance and suggested that a lack of field presence led to the signing of Collins.

In response, Volek critiqued the offense and wondered aloud how any quarterback would succeed in that system, given the team's personnel shortcomings.



This was an article by David Climer in the Jackson TN Sun paper.

your starting qb and leader doesnt call out his guys and start complaining that they arent good enough.
 
So volek agress with me then?

But he shouldn't have said it.

The line about personel shortcomings. He should have waited until givens and jones were healthy to make that judgement and should have kept his mouth shut..
 
bigtitan53279 said:
you know, the more i look at volek's stats, the more i think he is a terrible fit for this offense.

in heimerdinger's offense he had a great passer rating(as stat boy already pointed out)

but in the chow offense he has a qb rating around 77.6. his completion % also took a slight dip, which is odd since there are more short passes.

Bingo!

I think that's why Collins was brought in. No changes seen in the pre-season.
 
bigtitan53279 said:
you know, the more i look at volek's stats, the more i think he is a terrible fit for this offense.

in heimerdinger's offense he had a great passer rating(as stat boy already pointed out)

but in the chow offense he has a qb rating around 77.6. his completion % also took a slight dip, which is odd since there are more short passes.

Yet you still have to wonder, why bring in a quarterback with an even more questionable completion percentage?
 
RollTide said:
But he shouldn't have said it.

The line about personel shortcomings. He should have waited until givens and jones were healthy to make that judgement and should have kept his mouth shut..
FINALLY...........
A RollTide post I can actually agree with.:lol:
 
Gotitan...

I don't understand your point and you obviously don't get it. A WR core of mccarins, mason and bennett gives you several options for matchups. Are you suggesting that roby is as good as mccariens? Or williams? Because those rookies were playing that same role for much of 2005 that mccareins played in 2003. Hello?

And if bennett was volek's boy in 2004 how did mason get 96 passes his career high? Someone was throwing to him.

What is your basic point anyway that having kerry collins as our QB is a good thing? Bashing volek deflects the the fact that our starting QB this year is a guy who sucks?

You are argueing from a point of weakness given that collins already started and sucked!

What do we have to look forward to this season? At least there was hope in volek now we have guarenteed failure. Thank you jeff fisher!
 
Hoffa said:
Terry McCormick said today that KC is saying Green will only be out 2 weeks and they would stick with Huard for that.
If it turns out to be longer, they might be interested.
Volek said on Sportsline last night that KC had called the shark (Rosenhouse) about Volek.
 
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