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Not only is the situation completely different all around, Keenum was #3 QB that year, but his “career year” is dwarfing those guys.
Keenum statistically wasn’t that good. You picked QBR, did he have anything else to his name that said anything about franchise QB? The answer is no.

He was put in a good position on an already good team and he did t turn the ball over. That’s it.

THill was put in place on a struggling team and has been literally the best QB in the league since taking over.
Him “regressing” to a mean I should still quite good and more than deserving of a starting job.

Pair this with Tennessee’s inability to draft and develop a QB and you have the answer for the immediate future, THill. No need to franchise, pay the guy and fix other positions with the draft.
THill will be just fine as a starter for the next 4-5 years easy.
Keenum wasn't that good in 17 and hasn't been that bad since then. His QB rating this year wasn't far from what it was in Minnesota. The team just sucks and was giving up 30 PPG in his first four games and the others were against SF and Minnesota, so they lost.
 
Keenum wasn't that good in 17 and hasn't been that bad since then. His QB rating this year wasn't far from what it was in Minnesota. The team just sucks and was giving up 30 PPG in his first four games and the others were against SF and Minnesota, so they lost.
Keenum was not good last year in Denver, I agree the team was worse all around.
He wasn’t good this year in Washington to the point he hasn’t played seen getting injured in week 8. Have no idea if he’s healthy, they’re riding with the rookie, Haskins.

Keenum has 6 teams under his belt in 9 years. No team has wanted to keep him, even Minnesota.

The comparison of Keenum to THill is just not there and I’ve seen it brought up twice this thread.
 
Either Ryan Tannehill has transformed at age 31 into one of the best QBs ever, or what the Titans are currently doing is a statistical fluke that will certainly regress to the mean.

I will fully admit to not thinking tanny would be the answer....but we are finally seeing what I thought Titans football could be.....we appear to finally have the combination of great running game, a qb that makes all the throws, and receivers, (AJ, and crew, a committee of te’s, and other wr’s) that force d’s to pick their poison...so to speak....play it straight and BDH will take away your d’s manhood, play 8 in the box and it’s either play action or AJ running wild in over matched secondaries. It’s fun to watch
 
Either Ryan Tannehill has transformed at age 31 into one of the best QBs ever, or what the Titans are currently doing is a statistical fluke that will certainly regress to the mean.

Is anyone at this point arguing that this type of production won’t tail off at some point?

The question is how much?
This offense has plenty of room to regress towards the mean and still be very potent. That’s why THill and Henry need deals.
 
Is anyone at this point arguing that this type of production won’t tail off at some point?

The question is how much?
This offense has plenty of room to regress towards the mean and still be very potent. That’s why THill and Henry need deals.
What would be a good season next yr for Tanny stat wise?
 
What would be a good season next yr for Tanny stat wise?
4K, 25 total TDs, 64% comp. 10 or less TO.

That’d be awesome as a repeat. It’ll probably be around #10 in the NFL.

Oh and leading to a winning record. I don’t put W/L on the QB, but if he’s not costing games, he’s helping.
 
4K, 25 total TDs, 64% comp. 10 or less TO.

That’d be awesome as a repeat. It’ll probably be around #10 in the NFL.

Oh and leading to a winning record. I don’t put W/L on the QB, but if he’s not costing games, he’s helping.
You should definitely put wins on the QB, he touches the ball every play.
 
You should definitely put wins on the QB, he touches the ball every play.
Nah. Bad QBs get wins all the time. If I put w/l on anything less than an entire team, it’s a defense.

Need we go into this w/l record of a guy like VY?
 
Nah. Bad QBs get wins all the time. If I put w/l on anything less than an entire team, it’s a defense.

Need we go into this w/l record of a guy like VY?
Defense is easy in sports, its getting the right collection of guys on offense that's hard. Its much easier to stop a player from catching than it is for a player to actually make the catch. Offense takes talent and timing.

Youre talking about something else than me at this point if we're talking about steps to build a team.

Youre right about being able to get by with a less than loved QB. But if you allow a bad QB to stay around youre getting fired in the nfl.

Qb matters
 
Defense is easy in sports, its getting the right collection of guys on offense that's hard. Its much easier to stop a player from catching than it is for a player to actually make the catch. Offense takes talent and timing.

Youre talking about something else than me at this point if we're talking about steps to build a team.

Youre right about being able to get by with a less than loved QB. But if you allow a bad QB to stay around youre getting fired in the nfl.

Qb matters
Qb matters, agreed. Just not direct W/L association important.
Plenty of other positions could be attributed to single W/L including pass rushers like Von Miller.
Unsung heroes are OL. When a QB goes untouched, he gets the W but the OL is just by association part of the team equal to the Backup QB.
 
4K, 25 total TDs, 64% comp. 10 or less TO.

That’d be awesome as a repeat. It’ll probably be around #10 in the NFL.

Oh and leading to a winning record. I don’t put W/L on the QB, but if he’s not costing games, he’s helping.

So, basically Kirk Cousins. That’s what I expect him to be when he does come back to Earth, and I’m fine with that.
 
Defense is easy in sports, its getting the right collection of guys on offense that's hard. Its much easier to stop a player from catching than it is for a player to actually make the catch.....

I’m pretty sure youve never played the game of football, and Im CERTAIN you never played in the secondary.
 
Push all the chips in. Bring back Tannehill, Henry, Ryan, Conklin. Cut the dead weight. Bring in a Kicker. Draft Pass Rush and IOL and let's go win a championship
 
Push all the chips in. Bring back Tannehill, Henry, Ryan, Conklin. Cut the dead weight. Bring in a Kicker. Draft Pass Rush and IOL and let's go win a championship
If we want a chance to win it all next season, we have to spend the money.
 
If we want a chance to win it all next season, we have to spend the money.
We have a chance to win it all this season.....The TIts and the Ratbirds are the two hottest teams in the NFL. That is what the playoffs is all about...who gets hot and gets on a roll. I like our chances in the playoffs...SUNDAY will pretty much tell the tale.
 
Push all the chips in. Bring back Tannehill, Henry, Ryan, Conklin. Cut the dead weight. Bring in a Kicker. Draft Pass Rush and IOL and let's go win a championship
It's funny. We usually say "we'd be a contender if we had a QB" or "a RB" or "a better OL" or "a CB stud".

IMO, with the QB situation looking much better, the window is open NOW. A lot of what you mention needs to happen.
 
It's funny. We usually say "we'd be a contender if we had a QB" or "a RB" or "a better OL" or "a CB stud".

IMO, with the QB situation looking much better, the window is open NOW. A lot of what you mention needs to happen.
Yes....win now....the Titans are hot.....usually the team that gets hot in the playoffs wins in the postseason
 
2009 Jets got hot at the right time and went to an AFC Title game

2010 Packers won a SB as a 6 seed, but they got hot when playoffs came, not this time of that yr.
 
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