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Not surprised at all by who's first and who's last lol
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Not surprised at all by who's first and who's last lol
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So 1 guy is responsible for win %? The same guy who has a losing record and a 3 win season to his resume? He's so good! 24 TDs 23 INTs!!!
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let it all out buddy
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Real interesting stat this one.
1 - Can only assume this stat means win/loss against a side with a winning record, at the time of playing them. Not end of season or some other obscure definition.
2 - Further proves we, as a team, play better against good sides, and get dragged down to the standard of poor sides. E.g Thump the Patriots last year but lose to the Bills.
3 - And this one is a bit of a stretch but fits a narrative that I like. In these games against winning teams, we no doubt would of played a bit more no huddle, play-action type football, which IMO has always been MM's strength and has been under-utilised big time.
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i would assume so otherwise the total number of winning teams played would have to be a lot higher, i'd think
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It's weird, but "winning percentage vs teams with winning record" is not the only seemingly important stat that Mariota looks good at.
Adjusted Yards Per Attempt is considered by many to be a better metric than passer rating for QB's
Mariota's Career Adjusted Yards Per Attempt is 7.16 good for the 18th best OF ALL TIME in the NFL, higher than Mathew Stafford or Andrew Luck.
NFL Adjusted Yards per Pass Attempt Career Leaders | Pro-Football-Reference.com
If only he could pass the eyeball test, which tells me he is mediocre, with great inconsistency, sometimes playing like a super star, sometimes sucking badly.
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My favorite metric for examining QB's is ESPN's Total QBR.
(I favor this metric because it both considers situational stuff like down and distance and score of the game, AND takes QB rushing/fumbles into consideration. And yes, it is flawed, like all single metrics, but its better than anything else i have looked at.)
In this metric, Mariota looks quite average.
In Total QBR for his 2nd, 3rd, and 4th seasons. (I ignore rookie year, because, well, rookie)
2016: 13th best in NFL
2017: 13th best in NFL
2018 20th best in NFL
Why did he get worse (according to QBR) in 2018? My guess, and its just a guess, is Delanie Walker. He had Walker in '16 and '17, not in '18, and as the touchdown catch yesterday shows, Walker really makes a difference.
Adjusted Yards Per Attempt is considered by many to be a better metric than passer rating for QB's
Mariota's Career Adjusted Yards Per Attempt is 7.16 good for the 18th best OF ALL TIME in the NFL, higher than Mathew Stafford or Andrew Luck.
NFL Adjusted Yards per Pass Attempt Career Leaders | Pro-Football-Reference.com
If only he could pass the eyeball test, which tells me he is mediocre, with great inconsistency, sometimes playing like a super star, sometimes sucking badly.
P.S.
My favorite metric for examining QB's is ESPN's Total QBR.
(I favor this metric because it both considers situational stuff like down and distance and score of the game, AND takes QB rushing/fumbles into consideration. And yes, it is flawed, like all single metrics, but its better than anything else i have looked at.)
In this metric, Mariota looks quite average.
In Total QBR for his 2nd, 3rd, and 4th seasons. (I ignore rookie year, because, well, rookie)
2016: 13th best in NFL
2017: 13th best in NFL
2018 20th best in NFL
Why did he get worse (according to QBR) in 2018? My guess, and its just a guess, is Delanie Walker. He had Walker in '16 and '17, not in '18, and as the touchdown catch yesterday shows, Walker really makes a difference.
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The real best QB don’t meed to go by adjusted metrics or other super limited categories of success. The best QBs also happen to be at the top in your basic Yards, TD, and TD:INT ratio before jumping in, but still also near the top, comp %, rating, or QBR.
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very interesting read.... abc not gonna like this one
Marcus Mariota should survive as QB for the Titans in 2019 | NFL News, Rankings and Statistics | PFF
even with his epic fantasy stats (as some here say), tannehill was trash last season, basically
Marcus Mariota should survive as QB for the Titans in 2019 | NFL News, Rankings and Statistics | PFF
even with his epic fantasy stats (as some here say), tannehill was trash last season, basically
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I have no issue with Tannehill. I like him.
But that last quote was the complaint of my friends who are dolphins fans.
Thought the guy was completely worthless throwing a deep ball. I even saw a couple of games where he was nowhere even near the WR when throwing bombs.
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Basically says what most of the board says, Mariota is probably the better of the 2 (but close enough to be debatable) but neither are really good enough to not need replaced.
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They also said that Aaron Rodgers, Russell Wilson, and Andrew Luck were tier 2 QBs , Alex Smith is an incredible deep ball thrower, Tyrod Taylor is a top 10 QB, Tom Savage was just as good as Watson, Brett Hundley was just as good as Aaron Rodgers, and Mariota was absolutely horrible when he threw 45 TDs to 19 INTs in his first two years, and much improved during his 24 TD 23 INT stint. See any problem with their grading system?
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thats great for your fantasy team i guess. how many wins did the dolphins end up with again?
maybe its cuz of all the things listed in that article above... hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
you the guy in here defending this? lol
3rd worst.... SINCE 2006... out of all quarterbacks... come on bro, you are making yourself look silly
he got canned for a reason. i'm glad to have him as a backup, and nothing more.
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This right here! If he was a good QB he'd still be in Miami. I don't see the appeal he brings just because he makes some good throws against scrubs during preseason.thats great for your fantasy team i guess. how many wins did the dolphins end up with again?
maybe its cuz of all the things listed in that article above... hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
you the guy in here defending this? lol
3rd worst.... SINCE 2006... out of all quarterbacks... come on bro, you are making yourself look silly
he got canned for a reason. i'm glad to have him as a backup, and nothing more.
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That's nice. Look at the stats. 24 TDs 23 INTsthats great for your fantasy team i guess. how many wins did the dolphins end up with again?
maybe its cuz of all the things listed in that article above... hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
you the guy in here defending this? lol
3rd worst.... SINCE 2006... out of all quarterbacks... come on bro, you are making yourself look silly
he got canned for a reason. i'm glad to have him as a backup, and nothing more.
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Watch Josh Rosen PS highlights. And you'll see a guy getting beat to hell due to an unforgivably bad o line. That's been RT's life, whileas Mariota has had much better lines and has been worse
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It’s the Mettenberger syndrome all over again.
Looks good against scrubs in preseason = must be great
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