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Titans2008 said:No. But Jamal Lewis was once the best running back in the league (a very short time ago) and has shown me nothing that tells me he can't be a very good rb again. Chris Brown, on the other hand, has reached his full potential. I really could care less how many yards he racked up. I've seen him play. I know what he's capable of. Brown simply doesn't have the potential to do what Lewis has already done. It really is as simple as that.
Titans2008 said:All I'm saying is that I could pull up stats that suggest Michael Vick would be a better running back than LT, but it just isn't true.
Gunny said:Eddie George was once the best back in the league and he was run into the ground and never came back. Same thing for Jamal Lewis, and he had the benefit of a good O-Line.
Titans2008 said:EG was never the best running back in the league...
He never ran for 2000 yards in a single season against consistant 8-9 man fronts. All of this while his best qb barely broke the 70 qb rating mark. If you're going to consider 1000 and 900 yard seasons "run into the ground" then tell that to the guy you're defending who claims that constitutes being a "good" running back. In fact, this is the first year that Jamal has averaged less than 4 ypc despite playing on the most consistantly horrible offense in the league. And that was probably due, at least in part, to spending the offseason in a prison.
Titans2008 said:EG was never the best running back in the league...
He never ran for 2000 yards in a single season against consistant 8-9 man fronts. All of this while his best qb barely broke the 70 qb rating mark. If you're going to consider 1000 and 900 yard seasons "run into the ground" then tell that to the guy you're defending who claims that constitutes being a "good" running back. In fact, this is the first year that Jamal has averaged less than 4 ypc despite playing on the most consistantly horrible offense in the league. And that was probably due, at least in part, to spending the offseason in a prison.
Titans2008 said:Stats don't even begin to tell the whole story. The running backs are in two completely different situations. And like I've already listed, there are many factors that go into the "stats" that you evaluate with.
Jamal Lewis has far more potential to be a great running back again than Chris Brown does. Can i foresee the future ? Do I sit here and tell you that I know it will happen ? No. But Jamal Lewis was once the best running back in the league (a very short time ago) and has shown me nothing that tells me he can't be a very good rb again. Chris Brown, on the other hand, has reached his full potential. I really could care less how many yards he racked up. I've seen him play. I know what he's capable of. Brown simply doesn't have the potential to do what Lewis has already done. It really is as simple as that.
And to Soxcat... 8/32 isn't good... sure he's had some good games. There isn't some number you can look at in a vacuum and say.. "hell, he got a thousand yards this year, he must be great". If you look at the tape and you realize he could have had 2000 yards if he was a better player, then he isn't good enough.
Maybe next time I'll just pull a Bama and pick out one line in your post to pick apart with out of context google stats.
Soxcat said:First of all the issue isn't if Brown is better than Lewis. Last time I checked Lewis was not on the Titan's roster so the argument is ridiculous.
Second, Brown was a good enough player to get over 1500 yards in 2004. The issue wasn't if he was a good enough player, the issue was can he stay healthy.
As stated before why don't you give your advise on how we should correct this poor running attack we have? Just bashing Brown doesn't solve anything.
RollTide said:I never said that i think brown is better than lewis but one poster said that brown totally sucked while at the same time talking up lewis and getting all huffy because i mentioned his criminal past. Why 2008 got so mad about the simple mention of lewis as an ex-con? I don't know but he must be the first poster here to actually take up jamal's case on this board. Are you the second?
Admit it, you guys say that brown sucks yet his numbers the last 2 years are actually better than lewis. You had no idea did you?
Note to 2008, sorry i made your home boy jamal look bad in comparison to brownie. The stats don't tell the whole story but they tell most of it. You just need to remember to do your homework first when discussing matters with mr analyst.
RollTide said:I guess it depends on someones definition of best. Eddie was never close to being the best back in football on any given year. In his prime years only finished higher than 5th in the nfl in rushing once, in 2000(3rd). That's one reason he won't be in the hall because there were many contemporaries of his who were better, or lasted longer.
I was the one who put up that first down comparison not to bash eddie at all but oi illustrate that brown is not as different as they were saying. I don't know how eddie stacks up in that area to other comtemporary backs like martin, bettis or faulk but anyone can go to a number of web-sites and find out. It's just that most posters here are too lazy for that.
Travis henry is eddie like? Maybe stylistically but remember that henry had hardly played at all and had that 4 week suspension and still missed 2 games with injury this year. Durability has not been his strong suit either.
Titans2008 said:Ummm, yea.... I just mentioned Jamal Lewis for no reason. It's not like that would indicate that I think we should sign him or anything....