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The Titans as an organization should strike while the iron is hot. They have the chance to re-engage with their fan base and thus increase ticket sales. They have the chance to build their corporate sponsorship. Their is an energy in town around the team now.....the Titans need to take advantage of that...and from a long term standpoint they need to really engage in serious talks about stadium renovation....the Super Bowl is being played in a stadium that AAS has specifically mentioned as a model of her vision for stadium renovation...

I think the Titans need to be pro-active and not let the Tannehill and Henry contract negotiations drag on...show the fans you are serious about winning and show the other Titans players and other players/FAs that we mean business and are a place you want to be. Once you get those 2 guys under contract then the Titans can go ahead and start marketing to the fans and corporations to build more support while everyone is excited and while the Predators are down. I really think timing of things is important to take advantage of the momentum that the team built since Tanny/Henry put the team on their backs and started winning.....a positive vibe around the team and talk of stadium renovation will only help to attract FAs.

So JRob get those contracts done and continue building for the future SB run.
 
I’m with ya! Have seen such Titan fever in this town in years. Winning will do that haha.
 
The NFL has proven time and time again that what worked one year is far from guaranteed to work again.

Ask the Rams how giving Todd Gurley and Jared Goff huge money is going.

Being committed to winning means carefully considering your options and making the best possible decision for the future, not rushing to sign your players just because you finally had a hint of success.
 
Going by memory, Season Ticket Holders will get their request to purchase 2020 in early March. I'll be among many who won't be doing squat until I see how things shake out with Tanny, Henry and others.
 
TorontoTitanFan said:
The NFL has proven time and time again that what worked one year is far from guaranteed to work again.

Ask the Rams how giving Todd Gurley and Jared Goff huge money is going.

Being committed to winning means carefully considering your options and making the best possible decision for the future, not rushing to sign your players just because you finally had a hint of success.
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I agree with you in part. Scheme based success is cyclical. Talent and coaching is continually successful.

So the question is, was the success this year based on scheme or talent and coaching?

If you think Henry and Tannehill can only be successful in this scheme, then your hesitation is valid. I think either one could be used in different schemes successfully.

Talent at QB is hard to obtain.

Talent at RB is arguably easier to a point.

If the organization loses one or both of them this year it's tougher to replace with our draft position. We're pretty much forced to look at FA to fill voids. The question there is can we really get a better deal for one or both in FA?

IMO, you tag them and you lose three times.

1. It is probably cheaper to sign them prior to tagging.
2. Tagging is usually a precursor to the organization giving up and looking for a trade.
3. It sends a pretty clear message to the rest of the team and FA about the kind of organization you'll be dealing with.

In short, if you don't have a specific plan I think it's better to sign now.
 
JT2000 said:
I agree with you in part. Scheme based success is cyclical. Talent and coaching is continually successful.

So the question is, was the success this year based on scheme or talent and coaching?

If you think Henry and Tannehill can only be successful in this scheme, then your hesitation is valid. I think either one could be used in different schemes successfully.

Talent at QB is hard to obtain.

Talent at RB is arguably easier to a point.

If the organization loses one or both of them this year it's tougher to replace with our draft position. We're pretty much forced to look at FA to fill voids. The question there is can we really get a better deal for one or both in FA?

IMO, you tag them and you lose three times.

1. It is probably cheaper to sign them prior to tagging.
2. Tagging is usually a precursor to the organization giving up and looking for a trade.
3. It sends a pretty clear message to the rest of the team and FA about the kind of organization you'll be dealing with.

In short, if you don't have a specific plan I think it's better to sign now.
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With this being probably the only year to use 2 tags, I'm not opposed to tagging both at all. I also wouldn't be opposed to an extension for both, but if we could get Henry for the tag of 10 million bucks this year and he's willing to sign it, why not? Also, if Tanny is willing to sign it, why not see if we could get the same production next season? It'd be the same price as his long term or about that
 
I know we haven't seen FA or the Draft but I personally think we topped out talent wise. This offseason feels more like damage control for some reason. We're merely trying not to lose guys which will eat up all our FA cap room. We pick at the bottom of the 1st so the biggest impact guys will likely be gone as well. Not that there aren't gems here and there but still..
 
TitanJeff said:
Going by memory, Season Ticket Holders will get their request to purchase 2020 in early March. I'll be among many who won't be doing squat until I see how things shake out with Tanny, Henry and others.
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I've requested an extension until May (after draft) for the past 8 years or more. They've been very conciliatory and allowed me to do that. I'm wondering if that will continue if season ticket demand bumps significantly.
 
Riverman said:
I've requested an extension until May (after draft) for the past 8 years or more. They've been very conciliatory and allowed me to do that. I'm wondering if that will continue if season ticket demand bumps significantly.
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I think youll be ok, theyve called me 2x trying to sell me season tickets
 
I think many assume we run to establish the pass, that’s not really what we do when the o is rolling. If you look at Henry stats, and Titans wins. We do a mix, build up a lead into the 3rd and 4th quarters then use BDH to kill the clock. When we have to reley more on tanny and the passing game we are usually behind and playing catch-up. Our O does better when we control the ball, clock, and use BDH late in the games...when statically he is dominate.
 
I honestly trust this GM and coach to build a winner. If they won’t pay Henry huge money, I can live with that. Right now not paying him would be the harder thing to do and that tells me they have a plan for running this team and they won’t be swayed by fan pressure. That is a good thing. If they do give him the big contract, I trust they have the space to do it and still be successful. I can live with it. The same on Tannehill. I think they need to sign him. But if they go another direction because they think it is unwise to commit so much to him on such a small sample size, I get that too.

What I care about more than anything is a well run organization that is wise and not knee jerk in their decisions. That is a receipt for long term success. I hope that is what we have in JRob and Vrabel, and I see evidence that makes me think we do. So I trust them on whether or not we should sign these guys to long term deals. They have far more info than I do.
 
JM1995 said:
With this being probably the only year to use 2 tags, I'm not opposed to tagging both at all. I also wouldn't be opposed to an extension for both, but if we could get Henry for the tag of 10 million bucks this year and he's willing to sign it, why not? Also, if Tanny is willing to sign it, why not see if we could get the same production next season? It'd be the same price as his long term or about that
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We would save money tagging Henry, but Tannehill should sign a deal well below the QB tag amount of 26M.
 
Tricky said:
We would save money tagging Henry, but Tannehill should sign a deal well below the QB tag amount of 26M.
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Below? Maybe. Well below? Not. He won't get less than Nick Foles 22 mil a year and after the season he had, especially if Jameis is gonna get 20-30, no reason why a team wouldn't give him 25+ per year. I say tag him for 26 and see if we can get the same production out of him that we got this year.
 
JM1995 said:
Below? Maybe. Well below? Not. He won't get less than Nick Foles 22 mil a year and after the season he had, especially if Jameis is gonna get 20-30, no reason why a team wouldn't give him 25+ per year. I say tag him for 26 and see if we can get the same production out of him that we got this year.
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Sheesh, I cant imagine paying him over 22M. You really think teams are going to make him a top 10 paid QB with this sample size? Maybe they will, and if that's the case I agree we tag him. I wouldnt sign him long term for more than 22M.
 
Tricky said:
Sheesh, I cant imagine paying him over 22M. You really think teams are going to make him a top 10 paid QB with this sample size? Maybe they will, and if that's the case I agree we tag him. I wouldnt sign him long term for more than 22M.
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Jimmy G and Nick Foles got paid for doing less
 
JCBRAVE said:
Jimmy G and Nick Foles got paid for doing less
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Yea, good point.
Foles winning the super bowl MVP pretty much guaranteed him a pay day and Jimmy had only shown a few games but they were all very good.

Tannehill has a 7 year history of being average and hurt (albeit on a terrible team) and half a season of being great.
 
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