thnom said:
Woolfolksuncle - this point is TERRIBLE. You pick 2 players who made an IMMEDIATE impact and who eventually won a SB within 2 years in BOTH cases. These are a RARITY not the common thing going on.
Edit: and in no way shape or form is Tommy Maddox a "proven starter" at NFL level.
http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/1005 - for instance.
ONE season of starting 16 games, another starting 11 is "proven" to you? By that logic woolfolk is 50% there to being a "proven starting CB".
I never said they were the common thing going one. Here is the statement I was commenting On: Pay attention:
Originally Posted by Brian
(1) Veterans generally don't lose their starting jobs because of injury. When they do, it's not a vote of confidence.
The point I was making is that Andre is not a seasoned vet. Proven vets don't lose their jobs. Interchangeable seasoned - proven. Due to injury, he has been hampered, no denying that there. My main point in this entire thread is that this is his first offseason healthy since becoming a Titan. Brian and Soxcat will try to mislead people into different thinking on that. I don't care what any of you say on this. I know he was not healthy or able to do what he does in the offseason. What he has done in the offseason since he first went to OU and that is work hard as possible at conditioning and technique. He doesn't party, he doesn't smoke, he doesn't drink. The only activity other than church outside of football that he does is golf and that is special wife time for him. He lives breathes and consumes football and could not completely do that because he was not recovered from the two season ending surgeries from 2003-2004 and 2004-2005 seasons respectively. This year, despite the downplay of Brian again on the importance of it (how foolish to even downplay that), Andre is being the Andre I have known him to be. He will come hard at camp and that is once again the main point I am making. All of this finality talk that people :barf: out is sickening just like that smiley is. Plain and simple, Andre will be in camp healthy and fired up. Brian suggested he was reduced to covering kicks in his post at 10:58 yesterday. What games was he watching. I will go straight on the record on this board and state that that is a flat out misleading:
LIE Everyone that watched the games and followed the team even remotely this year knows that Andre was the nickel meaning 3rd corner in and with Fisher being the Fisher that he has been since I have been paying close attention: (yeah yeah yeah 2003, save it), He will open up the door of open challenge and whether you think it or not, the Left Corner battle at camp will be the hot spot, hot topic at camp. When it happens I will remind you of this post. Hey Brian, I am asking again post something to back up your #2 point in your post about the defensive philosophy. While you are searching look at the play by play on this URL and tell me what pass was thrown and completed (even just thrown to) to the slot receiver (not tight end) Slot receiver: When you find it post it: Like I said, I substantiate what I say with factual info. You post opinions, and some of mine are too, just substantiated by strong facts called stats:
http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/playbyplay/NFL_20051224_TEN@MIA Question: who is R. McMichael, is he a WR or TE.... I'll save you on it... He is a TE... ok