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WoolfolksUncle said:You are something Brian. Like TJ pointed out, you only post part of the stats and part of others posts to help your pointless statements.
What part of opposing QBs couldn't throw to his side of the field did you not get. Like I said previously you have no credibility at picking players and neither do I or we would be. Why don't you submit all of your critical posts compiled together on a resume to Fisher and Reese and they will hire you.... you think. You are trying to say they didn't do their homework and in fact you didn't. On the field, opposing QBs don't care about a coaches credibility, they care about where the open receivers are and when your man is always covered, the ball doesn't come that way. Oh, it is a waste of time with you anyway. Bottom line, he performed at the combine and by a strict points system was ranked third among available cornerbacks. He was a player of the game in the Senior Bowl and the part that unprivileged hecklers like yourself will never get to see, but I may share it with some other fans that know to make themselves friendly... The resume/video of his many astounding college highlights, that you obviously haven't seen, that was presented to NFL scouts by his agent (my brother made it and maintains the master). Those are things that make you a first rounder, now show your knowledge buddy and dispute these FACTS... Or as Mike and Mike in the Morning (ESPN Radio/ESPN News).
Well I have only mentioned the Miami game about 15 times and gotten no respons. That was either the next to last game or 3rd to last game. In that game he locked out the slot receiver completely in the second half. Unfortunately, people forgot how to tackle running backs and ricky exploded. All of their second half completions were to the outside receivers on Hill and Pac who were both burned repeatedly in that game. There were slot receivers in the game at those times and they were running deep, but well covered. That is what we wanted right. Now at times in the past when the discussion was about stopping the run, and I would post tackles vs RBs by Andre, the point would come up how many tackles a CB makes is unimportant or shows he didn't stop the pass but tackled the receiver, well I believe without double checking that his tackles was 3 (2 on RBs) 1 on a tight end after someone missed that tackle. No passes in the second half were completed to a slot receiver but many to the outsides and several for TDs. Had he been out of position or beaten, I am sure the QB would have thrown it for some of those TDs if he could have. I know, I just repeated it again... Maybe someone will get it. GoT, Go check the stats yourself. I watched the game and Andre played a good one. That was also the first week he was totally off the probable list after his injury. The game he got injured on he shut down Larry Fitzgerald for 2 1/2 qtrs, then got hurt. Then Fitz exploded for 74 yards and two TDs. While Andre was on him he had 7 yards on two catches. The ball was thrown to him 5 times in the first half resulting in Andres three first half PDs (pass defenses). That was turning into a huge good game and then the injury. So healthy, he was effective and it showed his progress, as I have been saying all along. The Jacksonville game was every defensive players bad game except for Bulluck and KVB.... All other linemen, linebackers and all DBs were put on display, burned and embarrassed.... The defenses heart was gone and the offense didn't help with repeated turnovers. Not counting that game, he has shown improvement. Please do not mention the fact that Hill got the starting nod, regardless, on the field Andre was covering receivers in front of him. The only negative nod in a previous half injured game was versus Marvin Harrison in the second Indy game, as he tackled him into the end zone. Marvin is Marvin and marvelous and every DB in the league that has held him has been torched. Come on, deny that, so that would make Andre equal with them on a negative point though...:ha:GoT said:but what has he done lately,, other than get healthy?
WoolfolksUncle said:.. That was turning into a huge good game and then the injury. ..:ha:
Soxcat said:Story of Andre's career.
WoolfolksUncle said:Well I have only mentioned the Miami game about 15 times and gotten no respons. That was either the next to last game or 3rd to last game. In that game he locked out the slot receiver completely in the second half. Unfortunately, people forgot how to tackle running backs and ricky exploded. All of their second half completions were to the outside receivers on Hill and Pac who were both burned repeatedly in that game. There were slot receivers in the game at those times and they were running deep, but well covered. That is what we wanted right. Now at times in the past when the discussion was about stopping the run, and I would post tackles vs RBs by Andre, the point would come up how many tackles a CB makes is unimportant or shows he didn't stop the pass but tackled the receiver, well I believe without double checking that his tackles was 3 (2 on RBs) 1 on a tight end after someone missed that tackle. No passes in the second half were completed to a slot receiver but many to the outsides and several for TDs. Had he been out of position or beaten, I am sure the QB would have thrown it for some of those TDs if he could have. I know, I just repeated it again... Maybe someone will get it. GoT, Go check the stats yourself. I watched the game and Andre played a good one. That was also the first week he was totally off the probable list after his injury. The game he got injured on he shut down Larry Fitzgerald for 2 1/2 qtrs, then got hurt. Then Fitz exploded for 74 yards and two TDs. While Andre was on him he had 7 yards on two catches. The ball was thrown to him 5 times in the first half resulting in Andres three first half PDs (pass defenses). That was turning into a huge good game and then the injury. So healthy, he was effective and it showed his progress, as I have been saying all along. The Jacksonville game was every defensive players bad game except for Bulluck and KVB.... All other linemen, linebackers and all DBs were put on display, burned and embarrassed.... The defenses heart was gone and the offense didn't help with repeated turnovers. Not counting that game, he has shown improvement. Please do not mention the fact that Hill got the starting nod, regardless, on the field Andre was covering receivers in front of him. The only negative nod in a previous half injured game was versus Marvin Harrison in the second Indy game, as he tackled him into the end zone. Marvin is Marvin and marvelous and every DB in the league that has held him has been torched. Come on, deny that, so that would make Andre equal with them on a negative point though...:ha:
GoT said:so we got ourselves a third year former first rounder second stringer who shows flashes but can't stay healthy
WoolfolksUncle said:...the Titans coaching staff believes in him enough to not have taken him out of the mix completely. They are the ones who watch him in practice and during games. They are the ones who know much more than we will ever know when it comes to technique, ability, etc...
Whom do you know on the coaching staff, to back your claim. What Newspaper article backs you up.... Any URLs to click on to back up your - Sound like you know what your talking about but really full of YOUR opinion statement. If you can quiet me by posting some proof to what you just said then do so. If not, join the "Benny Hill" Avatar man in Mike and Mikes favorite morning show theme. Fact is that every year over the past three that I have followed Fisher's (CB IMO as well) approach to his defensive backfield is that every position back there is an earned in camp and throughout the season, so I maintain, based on history (Actual events that happened) that Andre will come into camp more fine tuned than ever and in better condition than ever. This is his first offseason that he can actually train physically and technically. Due to serious surgery pins and screws inserted surgeries, he could not do that until this offseason. He has excelled ever since his Freshman year in college whenever he could do the offseason workouts on technical and physical aspects... Exactly why he was OUs Ironman, elected by his teammates for two straight off seasons. Exactly why the OU coaches chose him to play both ways. He didn't volunteer, they chose him to do that and he did it succesfully with a lot of hard work, grit and determination. He won't show up at this camp laying down leaving things how they were (last season is gone - to him it is were). He will show up and fight for the job and it will be noticeable and intense. He may or may not win the spot back from Hill, but if he doesn't you and all of the other blind supporters in your critical corner :baghead: supporters will know the difference and finally give him some respect)Soxcat said:The coaching staff are also the ones who delegated Woolfolk to the NB position giving his CB spot to a rookie 7th rounder. The bottom line is the coaching staff could and might think Andre is as good or even slightly better than Hill but rightly so they have to go with the guy who can be there week in and week out. It is unfortunate that Andre has been injured but he has and his performance when healthy has not been enormously better than Hill if as good. The same coaching staff that "believes in him" IMO is anticipating Andre not being a part of the Titans after this year and have resigned to the fact he wasn't the permanent answer.
Soxcat said:The fact he was "replaced" as the starting CB speaks volumes. He will win my respect when he wins the starting CB spot, plays well and stays healthy. Considering he has done none of those three things yet I see no reason to give a flip about what he did at OU.
GoTitans3801 said:Whoah, calm down buddy. The reason I asked is because I was unsure. You could have simply said that yes, it's parity. Wasn't trying to offend, was trying to get an answer.
Brian said:If he hasn't had a complete off-season to train then why was he raving about taking his game to the next level last year? He was ready to compete, and the best he could do was beat out Tony Beckham. He'll earn my respect when he does something well consistantly. Healthy or not, he's a terrible cover corner. At this point I'd be thrilled if he became a Pro Bowl Special Teamer - using his speed to get down the field and make every tackle. That's supposed to be his specialty, right? Tackling? Maybe block a kick or two. Make a play!!! That might give him enough confidence to make a contribution defensively. Woolfolk apologists are now saying, with a straight face, that he's better suited to play Safety. Of course he is. That's where CB's who can't cover end up.