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You guys are great.

-Look at all of these STAT$!! Numbers don't lie!

-Umm , so what about all of these numbers?

-BORING! BULLSH*T!

It's fine if you don't really want to respond. But downvoting when people are using the same method of forming an argument as you are comes across as immature.

Read the article! It's done very well and very unbiased! As for what the other stats mean...in comparison to each other...that's for you to figure out how those stats are possible given what you believe about both qb's. You can either explain it or you can't. Either you know what you're talking about or you don't. And if you don't, that would mean you'd have to consider the possibility that your opinion is incorrect about one or both qb's.
 
Read what I literally just posted regarding his deep ball.

What, that we should base our 2019 evaluation on stats from 3 and 4 years ago instead of the last 2 seasons in which he was ranked 10th and 7th?

It's funny. Someone reads an article and you don't want them to read the article, just your cherry picking of the stats so you can bash him about his deep ball from 3 years ago? lol

Aren't you one of the people who keeps saying he hasn't improved? Well if he wasn't good at deep ball throwing in 2015 and 2016 and is now top 10 or better, that sounds like improvement, right?
 
What, that we should base our 2019 evaluation on stats from 3 and 4 years ago instead of the last 2 seasons in which he was ranked 10th and 7th?

It's funny. Someone reads an article and you don't want them to read the article, just your cherry picking of the stats so you can bash him about his deep ball from 3 years ago? lol

Aren't you one of the people who keeps saying he hasn't improved? Well if he wasn't good at deep ball throwing in 2015 and 2016 and is now top 10 or better, that sounds like improvement, right?

Same guy that complains other posters "cherry picking" than he literally does it on every post of his. Lol
 
7 most accurate with half the attempts as everyone else
God I hate when these Mary fairies bring up that stupid stat

PEOPLE THE GUY DOESN'T STRETCH THE FIELD MUCH, not hard to be efficient at something when you barely do it.
 
I'm from Miami (second team)and I remember ppl having the same discussion about Tanny In the dolphins forum.

-Cant stay healthy
-Garbage backup QBs
-much of coaches team and offesinve.
-Bad Wrs (drops)
- not accurate
-middle of the pack Qb

Mariota is younger and won a playoff game so I think we should give him one more chance.

Tanny had plenty of chances already.
 
Don't speak like I'm an expert? How would an expert sound? Oh...like someone who knows, understands, and can explain a subject in detail? Or someone who cherry picks a stat, makes up the wrong conclusion, and then boasts this as proof of something over and over again...until an 'expert' can point out your conclusion is incorrect. And even then, you repeated it several more times.

And the difference is, I'm pointing out stats to make you think. If you can't answer my questions, then your conclusions are incorrect because the stats aren't made up...only your opinion.



Um...so you're trying to bash me for cherry picking stats...yet you're comparing their stats from 2015 and 2016...not 2018...not 2017 and 2018? You're cherry picking so obviously it's laughable.

And the fact that you want to discount Mariota's 2018 due to a lower sample size but accept Tannehill's 2016 with a 'lower sample size' shows your extreme bias.

So let's fill in the gaps you left out (which is what we call cherrypicking right?)!

2017

Tannehill doesn't play due to injury.

Mariota

Top 10 in deep ball accuracy with nearly DOUBLE the sample size of Tannehill in 2016.

"Mariota ranked ridiculously high in many accuracy stats. He was 2nd in overall accuracy, 2nd in accuracy under pressure, 5th in accuracy on throws to tight windows, and 3rd in open window accuracy."

I thought you haters said he couldn't throw accurately into tight windows...or he didn't have a big enough sample size? Oops. Wrong again. Thanks for playing!

But let's complete this and put this to bed properly.

2018

Tannehill has dropped to the 34th best deep ball passer out of 35 QB's.
"I always liked Tannehill more than most people, but it’s become clear he’s a different quarterback post knee injury. Second to last in overall deep accuracy, tied for last in accuracy on throws to his left, last on throws of 26-30 yards, and second to last under pressure, it’s been a tough road to recovery..."

To be fair, everyone should read the article as there are some bright spots to everyone qb.

Mariota

"Following off a great 2017 season in downfield accuracy, Mariota continued that despite numerous setbacks for another great deep passing year in 2018.

Mariota finished in the top five in accuracy percentage in five areas: 31-35, 41+, throws to the middle, throws in clean pockets, and throws into tight windows. He was terrific on throws of 41+ yards, throws to the middle and throws into tight windows, as he finished second in accuracy percentage in all three areas."

As with tannehill, you are not all good or all bad. Despite Mariota's high ranking and good stats, there are some things he needs to improve (talking deep ball passing here). Read the article!



Glad we can agree on that!!!



Which is what you did by not posting the 2017 and 2018 seasons! Talk about cherry picking...!



I'm not trying to make Tannehill anything than what he is. I pointed you to an article who is making the claim. I pointed you to his NFL stats...which you ignore and don't comprehend how you can think one thing while the stats tell the opposite.



Yes, you cherry picked 2 years of sample size from 3 and 4 years ago to suggest how they are today...which is silly when Mariota had a LARGER sample size in 2017 than Tannehill had in 2016 and yet you use Tannehill's 2016 but not Mariota's MORE recent year? Cherry picking stats from year's ago while ignoring a more recent sample size is telling that you have no argument. Almost as telling as you not being able to answer a single question as to why the much more accurate and better deep thrower in your eyes has a LOWER completion percentage AND a lower yards/ att avg. Let's see you explain this...if you can...?



The ones who know what they're talking about? Yes, they are 'my' people!



You made a claim about accuracy. What stats would you want to use besides last year's completion %, career completion percentage, last year's avg/att, career avg/att, and over a dozen deep ball stats charted and evaluated over the last couple of seasons? These are not a few stats, nor are they arbitrary, nor inexplicable data. They are also NOT based on an embarrassingly small sample size. Try again!

You saying things doesn't make them true. To prove a point you need more than cherry picked stats from 3 or 4 years ago and some incorrect personal attacks.

So again...here are some questions for you to contemplate that need explaining IF you want to keep your idea that Tannehill is more accurate and a better deep throw QB.

If Mariota is ONLY accurate because he got to throw the ball short so many times last year, why is his avg/attempt HIGHER than Tannehill's?

Why is his CAREER completion % AND CAREER yards per attempt avg also HIGHER than Tannehill?

Why is Mariota's 2018 completion percentage higher than Tannehill's while his yards per att is ALSO higher?
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I'm from Miami (second team)and I remember ppl having the same discussion about Tanny In the dolphins forum.

-Cant stay healthy
-Garbage backup QBs
-much of coaches team and offesinve.
-Bad Wrs (drops)
- not accurate
-middle of the pack Qb

Mariota is younger and won a playoff game so I think we should give him one more chance.

Tanny had plenty of chances already.
Plenty of chances and he vastly outperformed Mary every time
 
LOL!

So after all the whining about Mariota being off-target on caught balls, when one is shown of Tannehill (and there are plenty others in the pre-season games), all you got is to double down and claim Mariota can't complete the pass?

It's funny, Tannehill has a lower completion percentage in his career and last year than Mariota's numbers...but you think he's more accurate? Try explaining that?
Oh you must not have watched the game again. Mariota went 0-3 before getting sacked for a safety and removed.

So caught actually applies.

You should try watching the games everyonce in awhile, you wouldn't love Marioa so much if you did.
 
Plenty of chances and he vastly outperformed Mary every time
I agree but Tanny is on a one year deal.

Mariota is on his final year and the F.O has to make decision with him.

The Gap is extremely small between the 2.
 
I agree but Tanny is on a one year deal.

Mariota is on his final year and the F.O has to make decision with him.

The Gap is extremely small between the 2.
I agree, the gap is extremely small between the 2. Now it becomes a matter of which one of the 2 can we get on a 2 year deal for the cheapest. I doubt Mariota would entertain that offer, Tannehill might. Either way, neither is the answer, only someone to hold the spot while we search for our real franchise qb.
 
Oh you must not have watched the game again. Mariota went 0-3 before getting sacked for a safety and removed.

So caught actually applies.

You should try watching the games everyonce in awhile, you wouldn't love Marioa so much if you did.
OTHERS need to watch the games?!?!???
Really?!?!?
You do know how ridiculous that statement was right?!?!??

Going down this road again? I'll play along for the 623rd time, but just the once:
- 2 of 3 passes were DROPS
- Line play caused the safety not the QB
- Line play so gawd awful the coach took him out so he didn't get killed.

I typed it slowly so I don't know what else we can do for you on this one.
 
OTHERS need to watch the games?!?!???
Really?!?!?
You do know how ridiculous that statement was right?!?!??

Going down this road again? I'll play along for the 623rd time, but just the once:
- 2 of 3 passes were DROPS
- Line play caused the safety not the QB
- Line play so gawd awful the coach took him out so he didn't get killed.

I typed it slowly so I don't know what else we can do for you on this one.
Exactly, why are the receivers ALWAYS dropping Mariota passes but somehow manage to catch Tannehill passes? I will hang up and wait for your answer....
 
With an injury history longer than Andrew Luck's and entering a contract season is it time for Mariota to retire after this season? I think there is a chance he will look at his injuries, especially the tingles which has life threatening implications and could decide to retire. After all, he doesn't want to be age 40 and not be able to walk. Already is a big time CTE potential patient.

I think we are about to witness Mariota's last season. May God bless him in his future endeavors and wishing him all the best. I hope he decides to play longer, but my instincts are telling me he has gone through way too much, between the injuries and the coaches, and the new teammates, there's only so much a guy can handle.
 
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not retire but if he sucks this year or gets hurt again, moved to backup for practically any team

i wouldn't resign him if either happen
 
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