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Athlete Advisory: Growing Evidence that Ostarine is a Risk for Athletes | USADA

  • Positive tests involving ostarine have increased steadily in recent years, with WADA reporting more than 100 ostarine positives between 2015 and 2017.
  • Since 2014, USADA has announced 39 cases involving the use or possession of ostarine.
  • There are currently 72 products on the High Risk Listthat contain ostarine. In 19 products, ostarine is not declared on the label. In many cases, there are no red flags or other indications that the product poses an anti-doping risk as the products list only vitamins, minerals, amino acids, or herbal ingredients.
 
Been reading a lot the past couple days.


Lewan could be telling the truth. The only way we would know for sure is if we got the test results and found out how much ostarine was in the sample.

That's not saying he isnt just playing PR but there have been multiple examples of the same thing happening in other sports.


Tainted supplements is a real thing.
 
Having thought about this for a couple days I'm kinda of on the side thinking maybe he didnt know. He seems to have the entire team convinced, and the drug that was flagged is for bone density. He claims hes taking supplements for the brains benefits... Anyone who's had concussions should probably be on something that helps with brain health.

Unless your board certified neurologist told you to ingest it, it's bogus. Really.
 
EDIT: I was wrong on this. From what I could find, a player who tests positive for PED's is suspended 4 games for their first offense. That's a bit insane, but ok NFL.

Outside of the US the suspension is 2 years for the first offense and miraculously thousands of athletes avoid “tainted” supplements.
Whenever a football player gets busted for PEDs he blames tainted supplements. Been that way for years. So assuming they’re telling the truth, then you have to be a special level of dumb to not stick to the supplements that have been tested and approved by the NFL and NFLPA (or USADA, WADA or similar).
 
Not to downplay this, but PED's in football matter exponentially less than PED's in a sport like cycling. Obviously they're banned for many reasons in football, but someone on PED's isn't necessarily a better football player than someone not. They might run faster, and be stronger, but that doesn't mean they can be any more effective. There are so many players who aren't the strongest or fastest, but have better technique, are smarter, read quicker, etc to make them a better player. The one major bonus PED's can give in football is recovery time.

In cycling, your strength, speed, and recovery are directly related to how well you perform. The sport has such small margins between the leaders and those in the back. Not to say there aren't other skills, techniques, and tactics involved, but the physical portion is so much more directly related to success.

You’re misunderstanding the role of PEDs in sports. PEDs are not used to turn the average joe into a superstar. In sports a 1% increase in strength, speed, duration, etc is a big benefit, so using PEDs to quickly gain 5-10% extra is huge.
 
If this was the same supplement that Clemson used, why would you use it?

I don’t think he said same supplement, but it was the same drug they got in trouble for.

They had the same excuse tho, tainted supplements

Could be wrong lol
 
Outside of the US the suspension is 2 years for the first offense and miraculously thousands of athletes avoid “tainted” supplements.
Whenever a football player gets busted for PEDs he blames tainted supplements. Been that way for years. So assuming they’re telling the truth, then you have to be a special level of dumb to not stick to the supplements that have been tested and approved by the NFL and NFLPA (or USADA, WADA or similar).


Couple UFC fighters proved tainted supplements to be real.
 
I don’t think he said same supplement, but it was the same drug they got in trouble for.

They had the same excuse tho, tainted supplements

Could be wrong lol


You're not wrong.


Same situation too. I believe the quote was "there was just a sliver found in their system"


Happened to some UFC fighters as well. (Deleted, Dee touched on it)

Just read the release in this article:

UFC's Jim Wallhead accepts reduced suspension following contaminated supplement


The USADAs comments are pretty telling. They are straight up telling athletes that stuff is being slipped into their supplanted.


Here is the whole story.

The trouble with Ostarine: Jimmy Wallhead’s story - Sports Integrity Initiative

It's a pretty good read.


It's also hit some triathletes

One was able to prove it was a contaminated substance and got their suspension reduced.

Ostarine 101: The Drug Behind Recent Positive Tests – Triathlete
 
Joe Rogan has also touched on this many times, he is part owner of a supplement company called onnit and said they had issues when they first started with tainted supplements.

A lot of these companies make more than one product so if they don’t clean whatever they use after a batch and start a new batch of a different product, it could easily taint the new batch.
 
Joe Rogan has also touched on this many times, he is part owner of a supplement company called onnit and said they had issues when they first started with tainted supplements.

A lot of these companies make more than one product so if they don’t clean whatever they use after a batch and start a new batch of a different product, it could easily taint the new batch.
Onnit is way more than a supplement, they’re a full service gym/training/apparel/programming community. They have over 100 gyms nationwide, and the one in Austin is pretty badass I know because I’ve been there a few times.

Onnit Labs - Total Human Optimization
 
Couple UFC fighters proved tainted supplements to be real.
Sure you can get tainted supplements, but only if you buy from questionable companies.
If you buy from recognized brands like Maxim and Nutramino I can almost guarantee it wont happen.

Has Lewan mentioned what product it was?
 
Sure you can get tainted supplements, but only if you buy from questionable companies.

Has Lewan mentioned what product it was?
He's getting his shit tested to see which it was and then he's gonna release it, he said
 
Doesn't surprise me. Lewan has been an overrated slapstick ever since he joined the league. He's all about himself.
 
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