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Riverman said:
I’m sure his comment meant he’d like to be either here/there but definitely where he is paid. Bottom line, if we want to capitalize on this opportunity we’ve got to be willing to pay market value. Historically, we’ve never really been willing to do that for high profile guys yet we will pay at or above market for lower profile guys.

As far as Raiders having more to offer, that may be true, I’m not certain. I know they just got hosed by high profile malcontent so I’m not sure they’ll take another risk- at least not right now.
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I don't think Ramsey is equivalent to Brown. Ramsey is a big personality for sure, but even now, he isn't threatening to quit on his team, hasn't had off field issues etc.

I just don't see this as that big of an opportunity. He is a really good player for sure, so if we could get him for a reasonable price then count me in. But what does adding Ramsey to this team really do at this point? The defense has played well both games, it is the offense that struggled. So adding to the defense and having a struggling offense doesn't seem like a solution to me.
 
dg1979us said:
I don't think Ramsey is equivalent to Brown. Ramsey is a big personality for sure, but even now, he isn't threatening to quit on his team, hasn't had off field issues etc.

I just don't see this as that big of an opportunity. He is a really good player for sure, so if we could get him for a reasonable price then count me in. But what does adding Ramsey to this team really do at this point? The defense has played well both games, it is the offense that struggled. So adding to the defense and having a struggling offense doesn't seem like a solution to me.
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Ramsey in the secondary with Simmons coming into the line. It’s just potential only I realize, but with an elite D, you just need a serviceable QB with a solid run game to go far. We’ve got that. I’d rather have something like that for certain than to attempt to re-set a QB (which we don’t have enough draft capital to get Tua, possibly not Fromm with all these QB needy teams this year) and have no idea how good that QB will be. That’s why I’m big on taking advantage of a rare opportunity with a proven player like Ramsey. Adoree is just average and we spent a #1 (17) on him.
 
Riverman said:
Ramsey in the secondary with Simmons coming into the line. It’s just potential only I realize, but with an elite D, you just need a serviceable QB with a solid run game to go far. We’ve got that. I’d rather have something like that for certain than to attempt to re-set a QB (which we don’t have enough draft capital to get Tua, possibly not Fromm with all these QB needy teams this year) and have no idea how good that QB will be. That’s why I’m big on taking advantage of a rare opportunity with a proven player like Ramsey. Adoree is just average and we spent a #1 (17) on him.
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Jacksonville has been pretty solid on defense and have made the playoffs only once since Ramsey has been there, mainly due to their QB issues. I am not against getting Ramsey, but unless we can figure out something with the offense at the same time, I just don't see him being some sort of game changer for us, just like he didn't change the Jags fortunes and turn them into a perennial playoff team.
 
dg1979us said:
If we go to the playoffs it is most likely going to be because our defense is playing well. If that is the case, then adding him to the defense isn't much of a benefit especially, at the cost of the offense.
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You mean the defense that allowed a huge gain on a PI and a 59 yard run in the 4th quarter? The D is good but not great and can definitely be improved with Ramsey as a #1 CB.
 
Riverman said:
Who is this group? Why they watching this on the big screen?
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It’s a meme template. It’s actually from a soccer game inside a bar from awhile back. The gm was actually on that screen but people just sync and edit different vids to fit that screen. They time it to react with the crowd.

This is the original vid:
 
Riverman said:
You mean the defense that allowed a huge gain on a PI and a 59 yard run in the 4th quarter? The D is good but not great and can definitely be improved with Ramsey as a #1 CB.
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The defense has given up 32 points in 2 games. Of course they could be better, but they aren't the problem. Only 5 teams have allowed fewer points, and two of those teams have played Miami. On the flip side, only 3 teams average less yards a game than the Titans. Sure we put up points in week one, but one of those scores was defensive and several others were because the defense provided really good field position. They were still only 2-10 on third down, which is bad, and they werent overly consistent. Take out the big play to Henry and Brown, and the offense was pretty pedestrian in week one just like they were in week 2.
 
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Jaguars coach Doug Marrone said Jalen Ramsey will play Thursday night against the Titans.
 
Aqutis30 said:
Jaguars coach Doug Marrone said Jalen Ramsey will play Thursday night against the Titans.
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If he is playing then I cant possibly think they are actively looking to trade him. I have a feeling this is an offseason trade rather than an in season trade.
 
I'm kind of torn on this one. On one hand I really don't know if I want to give up our 2020 1st because we might be in the QB market. If we get Ramsey we are pretty much saying that we are rolling with MM8 for at least another couple years even if he continues to struggle.

On the other, adding Ramsey along with getting Simmons when he is ready should make us a nasty, top ranked defense. Fix the Oline where the run game can thrive and a game manager QB isn't getting killed and we could make a run.

Look at the Hags a couple years ago when they made it to the Championship game and almost best the Patriots with Blake Bortles! MM8 or Tanny is better than freaking Bortles.
 
Dman5TX said:
Lmao how are the Jags going to afford Mariota’s contract? You can’t just throw random names out there to trade away.
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Plus they just traded for Dobbs and minshew looks ok. They don’t want a QB, certainly not Mariota.
 
Why do folks want Ramsey? Our DB crew works great together and none are locker room headaches. MMCNB!

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Dangermode said:
Why do folks want Ramsey? Our DB crew works great together and none are locker room headaches. MMCNB!

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Is this a serious question? The guy just shut down the best WR in the game last week. He's hands down the best cover corner in the league. Why wouldnt you want that? Our secondary is mediocre at best. They gave up a cruicial TD in the game last week to Hilton. Ramsey would be huge for us.
 
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