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Yeah I agree that Receivers should do better catching the ball, especially with the tacky gloves...That said, I did see Mariota throw some bad balls to wide open receivers too. It’s a mix. I’m more concerned with his chemistry with receivers.
 
I don't think that AJ immediately takes the job as easily as most here seem to think.

If Taylor does slot into the 4th receiver spot (and he will at some point), I think they'll force a couple of touches per game. And he'll make a couple of big plays.
 
steverife said:
I don't think that AJ immediately takes the job as easily as most here seem to think.

If Taylor does slot into the 4th receiver spot (and he will at some point), I think they'll force a couple of touches per game. And he'll make a couple of big plays.
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No question about it that AJ immediately takes over starting duties opposite of Corey Davis. He will only be competing with Taylor and Sharpe. Calling this a competition may even be a stretch. I like Taylor as depth but those two are not starting caliber nfl receivers.
 
PRAY IV M3RCY said:
No question about it that AJ immediately takes over starting duties opposite of Corey Davis. He will only be competing with Taylor and Sharpe. Calling this a competition may even be a stretch. I like Taylor as depth but those two are not starting caliber nfl receivers.[/QUOTE



3 reasons AJ will start over them...1) He’s bigger and more physical 2) Great hands and can play inside and outside 3) he’s better after the catch by far.
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abc2330 said:
Focus drops are common with young players and can be corrected. Being slow unable to get open can't.
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You're right, focus drops can be corrected. But Taylor's problem isn't focus, it's hand eye coordination and his reluctancy to catch the ball away from his body. He's just not a natural catcher and never will be.

I'm not saying he's useless, his speed can still be valuable to our team as a 4th or 5th receiver.
 
I can see him being a bigger factor now.

Taylor can ball out when the ball is in his hand. His issues are the crucial drops. He gets big time separation, but we all know separation means nothing if you can't catch the ball.

We can use him like the Chargers use Travis Benjamin.

Taywan going to make some big catches for us this year. Mark my word!
 
At the end of the day, this is a great problem to have.

4 or 5 years ago, Taywan would've been our best WR.
 
I don't see Vrabel as the kind of guy that is going to give anyone a spot. So AJ and Humphries will have to earn their looks. And if Taylor makes plays and/or either of those guys slip up at all, he'll get snaps.
 
steverife said:
I don't see Vrabel as the kind of guy that is going to give anyone a spot. So AJ and Humphries will have to earn their looks. And if Taylor makes plays and/or either of those guys slip up at all, he'll get snaps.
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It won't be given but its fair to assume that Taylor and Sharpe have more pressure on them to prove their worth than a 2nd round pick that Jrob and the staff felt was a surprise to still be on the board at 51. They drafted AJ for a reason. It has everything to do with what's lacking in Taylor and Sharpe. Its AJs spot to lose.
 
PRAY IV M3RCY said:
I really don't see any competition for WR2 unless Brown struggles to pick up the playbook. However I'm left wondering if Taywan can still be a valuable asset to this offense. I think once we come to terms with his limitations then I think he can be put in a role that best fits his abilities.

We already know he doesn't have consistent hands and prefers to body catch rather than catch away from his frame. That's largely why he has a small catch radius and struggles in contested catch situations. Its hard to bypass those issues. Those are major flaws that plagued the offense when he was penciled in as our WR2.

However he does have big play ability. Maybe now since we aren't asking him to be a volume receiver as our WR2 but perhaps we can get really good value with him as a depth slot wr behind Humphries. He is arguably our best go to receiver for WR screens. As long as we give him easy catch situations I think Taylor can still be of some value to this offense. What do you guys think?
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I, like most people, expect our wr's to be CD, Brown and Humphries in the slot. I expect Taylor to backup Humphries and possibly Brown. But once you get knocked down to #4 or #5 wr, you better be playing special teams at a needed level or you may get bypassed by another wr o9n game day or worse - on the roster. Right now, Taylor and Sharpe are fighting to be on the roster! If I was Taylor, I'd be practicing catching punts and kickoffs and working equally hard on my special teams value as my wr skills (especially his hands).

He's got big play potential but he'll have far less opportunities unless there is an injury to the top 3. We tend to rotate a lot of players so we'll see some backup play to spell the starters....but a lot less than he had last year. Brown and Humphries catch wr screens well so I expect we'll see Taylor in the slot spelling Humphries more or if we give Walker a break on 3rd and really long (12-15+)...maybe 4 wr but I don't see that much at all. And quite frankly, if I'm the Titans I do what the Rams do...stay in a 3wr formation 95% of the time because it puts our best personel on the field and forces the defense to try and pick their poison. Pass against their base D with our 3 wr's and walker or run against their nickel with Henry!

If our wr's stay healthy and he's just in a backup role, I think he'll have less impact (fewer catches and yards but maybe more TD's) unless he can play special teams and return kicks/punts. Short of that, not expecting a lot.

But this is the NFL and people get hurt all the time. He's a nice depth player to have behind our current 3 or if Brown doesn't pick up the playbook fast enough.

Can he...yes! Will he, most likely not unless more opportunities arise.
 
CJtheBeast said:
Depends on how they scheme imo. He's a burner who can get deep and is also an asset in the reverse and screen game. He has a role, just depends on how much they use him.

Even if he's only making 1-3 plays a game that's a contribution. Could be a long ball, a key first down, trick play. There's going to be a lot of weapons this year and when you have Davis, Walker, Humphries, and Brown on the field its tough to get a big slice.

Davis 10 Targets
Walker 9
Humphries 6
Brown 6
Sharpe 2
Taylor 2
Pruitt 1
Firkser 1

That's 35 passes which is over our average last year and a realistic breakdown imo.

An injury to any of our WR's though instantly gives Taylor a shot. I think we need either him or Sharpe or both just in case we have injuries. Sharpe is a reliable target with good hands and Taylor is a burner who can fill a role too. Both could be key in keeping our offense from skipping a beat if they improve
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Two things to consider. First, not sure how many wr's we had up every game last year but he better be playing special teams well if he expects to be active on game days. If he's not playing special teams, they probably activate someone who will.

Second, I don't see Davis' targets going up to 160 for the season adding Walker, Brown and Humphries. Figure our top trio getting about 20-25 targets with another 5-10 going to Walker, rb's, backup wr's. If we live in a 3 wr set as the Rams do, these will change!
 
abc2330 said:
I really could care less abouta second year WR dropping some passes. I want to see that they can get open, and he can. He beat Ramsey on this play, but Mariota made an awful underthrow, so there is no room to put all of the blame on the WR
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Sorry, the ball hit him in his hands without him having to leave his feet or catch it off his shoelaces and not contested. That is the definition of a bad drop. You can criticize the throw all you want, but from a catching perspective, the drop is ALL on the wr as this should be caught 10/10 times. We're not talking about him diving with max extension and trying to catch the end of the ball with his fingertips...this is an easy catch!

Must you try and turn every thread not about our QB into a bash the qb thread?
 
abc2330 said:
Focus drops are common with young players and can be corrected. Being slow unable to get open can't.
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You can't coach players to run better routes and set up db's to get open??? What do you think WR coaches do...sit around and yell at the QB because they can't improve the wr's? LOL
 
JR1980 said:
Yeah I agree that Receivers should do better catching the ball, especially with the tacky gloves...That said, I did see Mariota throw some bad balls to wide open receivers too. It’s a mix. I’m more concerned with his chemistry with receivers.
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Of course. When Mariota makes a bad throw...criticize Mariota for missing a wide open guy. THAT'S on him. When he throws a ball that hits the wr in both hands and he drops it, that's on the receiver.

I think he does need to have better chemistry and does with Davis and Walker. He'll need to develop that with Brown and Humphries too. I think he lost some confidence in Taylor after some big drops. Need to get that back!

Should be some great competition on the team this OTA/TC.
 
Brown will play 10 games and have 30 catches for 400 yds and 2 TDs at most. I don't know where you guys get off acting like he's gonna blow up for a Rook when we cant even get more than 65yds/gm from our #5 overall WR.

Davis, Walker, Humphries and Deion will have 80% of our catches this year.
 
Jwill1919 said:
Brown will play 10 games and have 30 catches for 400 yds and 2 TDs at most. I don't know where you guys get off acting like he's gonna blow up for a Rook when we cant even get more than 65yds/gm from our #5 overall WR.

Davis, Walker, Humphries and Deion will have 80% of our catches this year.
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It all depends on health. We all know what happened his rookie and last year he suffered from inconsistencies at the qb position due to injuries and an OC that felt the need to be more conservative because of it.
 
Yeah. We've had around 300 catches each of the last 3 years. And we probably won't have much more than that if we run the ball well and play good defense and control some games.

Delanie and Davis are probably going to have 50-75 tops. Like 125 between them.
Humphries and Lewis probably going to have 30-65 tops. Like 95 between them.
Brown probably about 25-50.
Taylor about 10-40.
Maybe 60 between Brown and Taylor.

Then random dudes fill in the rest.

And Tajae will have like 19 catches for the Packers or Jets or Bucs or someone after we cut him.
 
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