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May be, but I doubt we see him make a trade. I would love it, but doubt it will happen.Very bad idea
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May be, but I doubt we see him make a trade. I would love it, but doubt it will happen.Very bad idea
Oh wow, I missed that! Good heads up there. Man... I'd give up a 2nd for gilmore right now.
As it's been stated here multiple times, we have about a 3 year championship window here, and the defense is clearly keeping us from our full potential. IMO Gilmore is the piece that could put us over the top.
Peeps, do not get your hopes up. Mid-season trades are not a JR thing. We are rolling with what we have.
Hey, I’m not saying I don’t want to, I do. I’m saying JR has never done an in season trade and I doubt he will.When have we been in a spot where a premium player was available that could help us get the #1 seed though? We've been a pretty middle of the road team all the times before at the deadline. And it's rare that this talented of player especially one with another year of control.
This is an entirely different situation than previous years IMO.
Hey, I’m not saying I don’t want to, I do. I’m saying JR has never done an in season trade and I doubt he will.
Why would Henry restructure the deal he just signed?Everyone freaking out because we didn't get Griffen need to chill. Just in general, none of us have any idea as to whether we attempted a trade or not. People act like we are the only team on the planet and others only get what we pass up on. More specifically, I don't think he's the answer anyway. He's more of a 4-3 DE/ 3-4 OLB and what we really need is a 3-4 DE. Why give up a potential 5th (or 4th since Detroit is on the hook for a potential 5th) for a player we could of picked up for nothing all off-season and chose not to?
Dunlap would of been a better option, but again, we don't know if we made an offer or not. So don't assume we didn't. Trade talk and the emotions that follow are always hilarious with some people. This isn't Madden where you can just get whomever you want for almost nothing. There is negation and strategy for all other 31 teams.
As far as corners, I guess I'm ok with giving up a 2nd for Gilmore, but I'm weary of when Bill decides to get rid of players. Plus considering our record, it might take a first rounder. What people aren't considering, is how that will restrict us from being able to sign our own players next year. Yea, Davis is probably gone anyway and we can part with Butler, but how much will Brown, Jonnu require? JRob has shown he is willing to take care of his own and we've had two players reset the market already. There is also Clowney, DeQuan Jones, and possibly Firkser and Pruitt. Henry will want to restructure, justifiably so. Then we have Jackson and Landry up next. Not to mention Gilmore would want a new contract as part of the trade. So wishful thinking in the short-term yes, but I don't see it realistically.
On the other hand, there might be some middle ground options out there. I've heard Desmond King's name thrown out there. Is there anyone else?
Is Leonard Williams realistic?
I read on another site that his cap hit this year would be 8.4 million and 7.5 million next year. Patriots would be on the hook for the rest.I agree 100%. The only part that I'm not sure about is how the restructure and signing bonus apply to guy being traded. Don't know if NE or TEN would be on the hook for that. It shows his total cap hit around $17M when you include those things.
I'd honestly give up a 1 & 2 for Gilmore if he was only $7m next season. That's a huge bargain for probably the best corner in football. If he is more expensive then that drives the price down for sure.
I know exactly what you are saying. I just saying don’t get your hopes up. Everyone is going to be peeved when someone else gets him for a 3rd or 4th. Temper those expectations.Right but I’m saying we are in a much different spot at the deadline this year than we have been since he’s been here. Never been 5-1 and a super bowl contender at the trade deadline with JRob. He’s never had the need to go out and make a big move during the year.
Gearing up for a Trevor Trade.View attachment 17924
Let's go shopping!
Thought Williams was a DT, thanks for the correction.
Crawford is depth, should not be a starter. I'm one of the few that thought dealing Casey was a bad move.
And no to the Williams sisters, they annoy me! Lol
NE restructured his deal. I don’t think that’s accurate anymore.
EDIT: Yep. His base salary is $7 million next year Stephon Gilmore
I'd honestly give up a 1 & 2 for Gilmore if he was only $7m next season. That's a huge bargain for probably the best corner in football. If he is more expensive then that drives the price down for sure.