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Jennings over Sharpe for sure. When you're that low on the roster you need to make some good ST plays and he's shown to be one of the better KR guys.
 
Seems more like a “Early but appropriate time for 53 man roster predictions” rather than a way to early type of thing. Lol
 
JCBRAVE said:
I think Brown is just too good not to start. Sharpe is a finished product and not a very good one. Really think that project could be over.
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Yeah...that's why I have him starting. He was one of the more plug and play ready wr's in this draft class. Combine that with our lack of established #2 from last year and his work ethic, I think they likely start him at #2.

However, the equation is Brown vs Taylor vs Humphries starting at #2 wr. Sharpe is not in the running. Sharpe is fighting for a roster spot with #4 his ceiling atm.
 
J Falk said:
Also, I highly doubt we keep 10 olineman. Get rid of dee liner and an o liner and add another DB and Long.
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Yeah...but 9 OL is less depth than you'd want. And since Conklin is coming off multiple injuries...it's an issue. Plus, I think they signed Grasu to see if he and Levin could push Jones. Levin and Davis will probably backup the OG spots and depends on where Levin and Grasu end up on the OC depth chart.

I started with 9 but having Levin cover two spots gets dicey.

Same situation at DL. Johnson is our main NT and not even sure of that. Liner is a big NT and could be one of those unknown guys who gets snaps at NT. If I take Liner off we only have Jones who can kind of play NT.

The flip side to this argument...and one Brave will make any second...is that we don't play base that much so who needs a NT. Some teams will take advantage of that if we don't have a NT. If Urban can also play NT, Liner or Johnson is gone and we carry one main NT. This is better because I don't like having 2 roster spots for 2 guys who will likely only have to cover 30 snaps a game tops.

What other DB would you add? Between Cruiks, Hooker and our #4 and #5 cb's, and our #4, #5, and #6 wr's...I think we have man small special teamers than we need. So what do I need a 6th cb or 3rd string S for?

I replaced Bates with Long. But we are more likely to need a 3rd OL or a 2nd string NT than a 4th string DB who won't play ST or see the field.

Or we drop Liner and add Bates or the best ST not on the roster.
 
JCBRAVE said:
Oh yea lol

I didnt even see his name the 1st time around

yea wtf is he on there for @Gut, that your cousin or something?
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LOL! Backup 330lb NT though he might be able to beat out Johnson. Has Urban played NT? He's only on there because I don't need more small ST players and was worried about NT since Jones is really the only other guy I see who can play it. Even though base D is a smaller percentage, when are we gonna need a 6th CB. A backup NT might actually get some snaps. Or an 10th OL to make sure we are two deep across.

If Urban can play some NT I'd cut Liner...but who to add who will see playing time or be a 2nd string backup...or a better ST player?
 
Gut said:
Yeah...but 9 OL is less depth than you'd want. And since Conklin is coming off multiple injuries...it's an issue. Plus, I think they signed Grasu to see if he and Levin could push Jones. Levin and Davis will probably backup the OG spots and depends on where Levin and Grasu end up on the OC depth chart.

I started with 9 but having Levin cover two spots gets dicey.

Same situation at DL. Johnson is our main NT and not even sure of that. Liner is a big NT and could be one of those unknown guys who gets snaps at NT. If I take Liner off we only have Jones who can kind of play NT.

The flip side to this argument...and one Brave will make any second...is that we don't play base that much so who needs a NT. Some teams will take advantage of that if we don't have a NT. If Urban can also play NT, Liner or Johnson is gone and we carry one main NT. This is better because I don't like having 2 roster spots for 2 guys who will likely only have to cover 30 snaps a game tops.

What other DB would you add? Between Cruiks, Hooker and our #4 and #5 cb's, and our #4, #5, and #6 wr's...I think we have man small special teamers than we need. So what do I need a 6th cb or 3rd string S for?

I replaced Bates with Long. But we are more likely to need a 3rd OL or a 2nd string NT than a 4th string DB who won't play ST or see the field.

Or we drop Liner and add Bates or the best ST not on the roster.
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Bates is our special teams captain and most experienced ST player. He's not going anywhere. Also, having 9 olineman isn't a problem at all. Ill bet you moolah we don't keep 10 of them for the 53.

I do agree that another d liner could probably be utilized better, just not dee liner lol.
 
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J Falk said:
Bates is our special teams captain and most experienced ST player. He's not going anywhere. Also, having 9 olineman isn't a problem at all. Ill bet you moolah we don't keep 10 of them for the 53.

I do agree that another d liner could probably be utilized better, just not dee liner lol.
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Yeah, that's why I changed my intial roster to include Bates over Long. But I guess it depends on how Long and Bates look in training camp. If Bates makes the roster I doubt Long makes it to and probably goes practice squad. Also considering we're in Nickel a lot, we aren't gonna carry more than 5 total ILB's and may only have 4 (with the top 3 being set at Woodyard, Evans and Brown).

We'd like to keep 9, but I want to see if Conklin is 100%. Also depends on what happens at RG and OC.

But again, we'd like to take another DL...but who? The last 3-4 spots are gonna be depth for scheme and how good we feel depth-wise at certain positions. Some positions other players can carry...like we could go with more 2 wr sets if we lost a wr or 2. Or go more 3 wr sets if we lose our #2 TE.
 
Bates isnt good

Long should take his job

Bates is not some ST Ace, more like a 7 of clubs. We can upgrade that role with Long taking over
 
Gut said:
Agreed! Might save some money now...but that's a terrible thing to do to a player who - assuming he's as good as we think he is - we'll want to re-sign with us and be a leader on the team.

The Titans at times have been penny pinchers at times.

This shouldn't be one of those times. Plus, we want him to be focusing on his rehab and learning the playbook and getting back as soon as he's healthy...not worrying about his finances because the team is screwing him!
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There’s a problem in this scenario regardless, and that’s his 5th yr option decision after maybe only playing 2 yrs. it’s gonna be a big number, and if they can come to some sort of deal to “redshirt” him while also paying him we could actually take advantage of him not accruing a season of play.
 
Jwill1919 said:
There’s a problem in this scenario regardless, and that’s his 5th yr option decision after maybe only playing 2 yrs. it’s gonna be a big number, and if they can come to some sort of deal to “redshirt” him while also paying him we could actually take advantage of him not accruing a season of play.
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I originally thought he'd be a PUP but reading up, he'd go to the NFI list. I didn't know they didn't have to pay the guys on THIS list and that wouldn't accrue games/seasons while on this list and off the 53 man roster.

I don't know if this means they can essentially redshirt him and not pay him his first year salary...

Or pay him his first year salary but it wouldn't count as year 1...?

I don't know. Maybe someone else can check this out. If we pay him in year 1 but he doesn't play, would he still be eligible for his 5th year option for 2023...or would that get pushed back to 2024? If it gets pushed back to him not accruing his first season, how does that work since he'd be paid for 5 years before his 5th year option...so what's the structure of that? Or would they pay him 4 years and just lose a year of playing time and pay him as if he was playing anyway?

IDK. I imagine when he signs...there will be a lot of discussion of how this gets worked out.
 
JCBRAVE said:
Bates isnt good

Long should take his job

Bates is not some ST Ace, more like a 7 of clubs. We can upgrade that role with Long taking over
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So they let slaw dogs be NFL team captains huh? Interesting take. I think long and Bates will both make the team, with the hopes of Long being able to develop into a reliable piece for this team And eventually taking over Bates spot.
 
J Falk said:
So they let slaw dogs be NFL team captains huh? Interesting take. I think long and Bates will both make the team, with the hopes of Long being able to develop into a reliable piece for this team And eventually taking over Bates spot.
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Hes the best of a weak bunch so hes in most ST packages

Doesnt make him good at all
 
JCBRAVE said:
Hes the best of a weak bunch so hes in most ST packages

Doesnt make him good at all
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Our special teams was good last year though. Can't wait to hear you complain when Bates and Walker both make the team lol.
 
J Falk said:
Our special teams was good last year though. Can't wait to hear you complain when Bates and Walker both make the team lol.
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Neither will

Bates might. Maybe after sucking last yr he improves

As for our STs it's all about our kicker punter and KR

Not the little LB that cant play defense.....
 
JCBRAVE said:
Neither will

Bates might. Maybe after sucking last yr he improves

As for our STs it's all about our kicker punter and KR

Not the little LB that cant play defense.....
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Literally half of the things you say make absolutely zero sense.

There have been days where our kickoff and punt teams have given up way too many yards and TDs. You cant say that about the last couple years.
 
Titans gave up nearly 700 yards on kickoffs, which is not very good.

And almost 300 on punts with Bates punk ass in charge.

None of that is good
 
JCBRAVE said:
Well because you are stupid

Dexter Lawrence and Paxton Lynch say hello
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Again, half of the things you say make zero sense. Anther perfect example here pointing out a proven bust and then a 1st round pick who hasn't played a snap lol
 
J Falk said:
Again, half of the things you say make zero sense. Anther perfect example here pointing out a proven bust and then a 1st round pick who hasn't played a snap lol
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Those are your buddies so dont blame me for throwing those names at you

Lawrence is fat and unimpressive

Thank God hes not a Titan
 
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