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Mariota is a bad qb period.
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Mariota is a bad qb period.Here’s why I think mariota got shafted. The o-line was awful early on in the season. He was getting zero protection and Henry wasn’t hitting the holes or they weren’t their for him to hit. AJ brown had yet to become a factor like he is now which mariota sorely needed, he had no playmakers since walker was hurt.
Tannehill is on some case keenum/nick foles bs who catches lightning in a bottle and gets paid and reverts to his ****** self. That’s just my opinion, call me crazy fine.
My #1 thing with a qb is, can he win a sb. That's it, period. I love what he brought to the team and i think this season was a success, but he doesn't deserve more than a 1 year deal. He folded today, his passes were low and he wouldn't audible out of dumb play calls (or he did audible and he's wrong). Maybe we can fix our little problems and tanny can take us the distance, but it will not be on his shoulders. He was and is a good qb, but not enough to win a sb and that's what this game is about. He needs too much around him to win it all. This team is built for a guy like him to win, but I'm not giving him big money or a long deal. With that said, i will be happy with a 1 or 2 year deal (20-23m), i will be unhappy with anything over 2 years and/or 25m.
You have to Franshise tag unless he takes a pat cut to stay here.
This isnt a real question is it?
Tanny should be given what he wants.
Agree with a couple of caveats...
1. Henry is the top priority IMO...if we have to say no to Tannehill in order to sign Henry it is what it is....that said, I think that this situation is unlikely.
2. More realistically, Tannehill is 31 and has been historically injury prone. I would be hesitant to sign for longer than 4 years....tops.
I said this in another thread, but another approach would be to see who of the senior citizen QBs (Brady, Rivers, Brees) may be available for a 1-3 year gig, see what we could sign one of them for, then go QB at all costs in round 1 of the 2021 draft (Trevor Lawrence).
The above is why I am not a NFL GM LOL.
Agree with a couple of caveats...
1. Henry is the top priority IMO...if we have to say no to Tannehill in order to sign Henry it is what it is....that said, I think that this situation is unlikely.
2. More realistically, Tannehill is 31 and has been historically injury prone. I would be hesitant to sign for longer than 4 years....tops.
I said this in another thread, but another approach would be to see who of the senior citizen QBs (Brady, Rivers, Brees) may be available for a 1-3 year gig, see what we could sign one of them for, then go QB at all costs in round 1 of the 2021 draft (Trevor Lawrence).
The above is why I am not a NFL GM LOL.
Ya, the 5-11 seasons weren’t that bad. We knew that we had to suffer through some rough years until our QBs developed. It sure was fun enjoying those seasons after VY, Locker, and Mariota developed though.I would be totally willing to let both Henry and Tannehill go if the price is not right.
A QB who suddenly broke out at age 31 and a RB who just had 400+ touches are exactly the type of player who are likely to get worse in the coming years. I don't want to pay top dollar for a player headed in the wrong direction.
I dont know if I actually buy into the suddenly broke out theme. I never watched the Dolphins, had no interest, so I really dont know anything other than stats. As far as stats go, it sure looks like Tannehill has had potential all along. I have to wonder how much he was effected by being stuck on a team like the Dolphins.I would be totally willing to let both Henry and Tannehill go if the price is not right.
A QB who suddenly broke out at age 31 and a RB who just had 400+ touches are exactly the type of player who are likely to get worse in the coming years. I don't want to pay top dollar for a player headed in the wrong direction.
I think the dolphins OL was worse than ours so THill was throwing like he had a ton of time in the pocket comparatively. Our OL still allows a lot of sacks but as the season progressed they also improved and seemed like they were getting on the same page better.I dont know if I actually buy into the suddenly broke out theme. I never watched the Dolphins, had no interest, so I really dont know anything other than stats. As far as stats go, it sure looks like Tannehill has had potential all along. I have to wonder how much he was effected by being stuck on a team like the Dolphins.
Personally, I really would love to give Tannehill a 3 year deal then evaluate him at the end of that contract before going for more. I think it is unlikely though. He has proven to be a top half of the league QB, so atleast 15 teams would improve with Tannehill as QB. Someone will offer him a solid 4+ year contract.
Seriously doubt Lawrence is in our future. He is going to go to whichever team is willing to tank for him. We are too close to the top to go into tank mode. We are going to have to find a gem in the draft.
I would take Tannehill over Rivers hands down. There is a lot to be said about both Brady and Brees, but I dont think Brady is going to be any better than Tannehill at this point of his career.
If we want the 1st overall pick in 2021, signing a future hall of fame QB is probably not the right way to make that happen.I said this in another thread, but another approach would be to see who of the senior citizen QBs (Brady, Rivers, Brees) may be available for a 1-3 year gig, see what we could sign one of them for, then go QB at all costs in round 1 of the 2021 draft (Trevor Lawrence).
The above is why I am not a NFL GM LOL.
I dont know if I actually buy into the suddenly broke out theme.
Foles is not a good comparison at all.His passer rating, 117.5, was the league’s best. He averaged 9.59 yards per attempt--a full yard better than any other qualifying quarterback. No quarterback in NFL history has ever finished with such a high combination of those two numbers. - He Was on the Scrapheap. Then He Became the NFL’s Most Efficient Quarterback.
This is almost the dictionary definition of breaking out.
Either Tannehill needed to leave Miami to prove that he's the best QB in the entire NFL, or he is a guy who got really hot for half the regular season (and it's probably already over, considering how he played in the playoffs).
We've seen guys get hot before. Nick Foles won a f'ing Super Bowl. Years before that, he set the record for most TD passes in a single game. But in between those two hot streaks, he was generally a below-average QB. Some guys just get hot.
I think Tannehill is probably the best option the Titans have and he should be re-signed. I'm not out here saying he sucks or anything. I think he's probably better than we saw in Miami but not as good as we saw in 2019 - and I think he's probably good enough to win a Super Bowl if the pieces around him are all great.
But the Titans are going to have to pay $100 million+ because of what he did in 2019 and he might go back to being what he was in Miami, which is something way less than a $100-million player.
It's a risky place to be. Foolish to think otherwise.