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V-MAN said:All of these points you are making are assumptions. Thats it...ASSUMPTIONS.
Let me ask you this. If you have a QB who could get the first down by running 7 yards and all of his options are covered would you rather him throw the ball and risk a turnover or throw the ball out of bounds? Believe it or not running the ball is part of every QB's game. Some may not want to do it, but they all do.
You pointed out injuries to mobile QB's seems to happen more. Another assumption. Being immobile can cause injuries as well(Rex Grossman), and also shorten careers(Troy Aikman). I believe Elway had a long career and he was a mobile QB.
If he has proven anything, he is elusive. His size hopefully makes him more durable than Vick has been.Jwill1919 said:So what are you saying TJ, Vince has a bigger bullseye than most QBs?
V-MAN said:All of these points you are making are assumptions. Thats it...ASSUMPTIONS.
Let me ask you this. If you have a QB who could get the first down by running 7 yards and all of his options are covered would you rather him throw the ball and risk a turnover or throw the ball out of bounds? Believe it or not running the ball is part of every QB's game. Some may not want to do it, but they all do.
You pointed out injuries to mobile QB's seems to happen more. Another assumption. Being immobile can cause injuries as well(Rex Grossman), and also shorten careers(Troy Aikman). I believe Elway had a long career and he was a mobile QB.
He is more durable, and will be able to shed tackles more than Vick does.Jwill1919 said:So what are you saying TJ, Vince has a bigger bullseye than most QBs?
Jwill1919 said:Rex Grossman blew out his knee trying to run for a touchdown from 9 yards out. Troy Aikman was a statue, but also won 3 superbowls. John Elway wa one of the best passers the league has ever seen, and after his 4th year in the league, he rarely ran, he beat you with his arm. Vince Young is not the caliber passer that Aikman or Elway were, he's more in the mold of Charlie Ward like someone earlier compared.
I can't think of a successful running QB to come out in the last 15 years. I'm just not big on running QBs because the durability factor is multiplied. QBs are the least durable player on any given team, if they run the ball more, they become that much less durable, it only takes one hit. And because Vince might be bigger doesn't make him more elusive, it does the exact opposite, creates a bigger target for someone to drill. Michael Vick is the most elusive player in the NFL, and he gets beat up week afte week.
I'm more concerned with how he'll do when the protection doesn't break down.jdee said:You talk like a running QB is a bad thing. I like the fact that you have to account for the QB on the defensive side. Plus, when protection breaks down, Young can make a play with his legs.
JDee
Starkiller said:To me, Vince Young is the biggest risk in the entire draft, even if he does arguably have the greatest potental reward. I don't want to take a player that risky at #3, nor do I want to see him ride the bench for 2 years.
That's just my personal take...
I guess you don't remember a guy for the 49ers named Young.Jwill1919 said:Rex Grossman blew out his knee trying to run for a touchdown from 9 yards out. Troy Aikman was a statue, but also won 3 superbowls. John Elway wa one of the best passers the league has ever seen, and after his 4th year in the league, he rarely ran, he beat you with his arm. Vince Young is not the caliber passer that Aikman or Elway were, he's more in the mold of Charlie Ward like someone earlier compared.
I can't think of a successful running QB to come out in the last 15 years. I'm just not big on running QBs because the durability factor is multiplied. QBs are the least durable player on any given team, if they run the ball more, they become that much less durable, it only takes one hit. And because Vince might be bigger doesn't make him more elusive, it does the exact opposite, creates a bigger target for someone to drill. Michael Vick is the most elusive player in the NFL, and he gets beat up week afte week.