It’s such a tough rule.
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doesn't have to be, get rid of it
you run past LOS you can get hit same as every other player in the game
fuck off with this babysitting shit
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It’s such a tough rule.
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I’m ok with that too, this is suggesting get rid of the slide option.doesn't have to be, get rid of it
you run past LOS you can get hit same as every other player in the game
**** off with this babysitting ****
Allen abused this vs Pitt
on the TD run, you could clearly tell the defender that had a line on him held up because he thought Allen was sliding.. but nope
and then late in the 4th, on 3rd down he ran 2 yards past LOS and then took his time sliding, obviously to draw the penalty
chickensh.it rule
Fumbling out of the endzone should not be a touchback. In no other situation is the ball awarded to a defense that didn't recover it. Take it back to the spot of the fumble.
Consider it like this using war as the comparison.The fumble rule just seems inconsistent. If the incompetent O fumbles out of bounds on the 5 yard line, they get the ball back at the 5 yard line (or spot of the fumble). However, if the incompetent O fumbles it out of bounds in the end zone, they lose possession. Huge difference. Are there any other rules or even penalties that result in a possession change?
I know that realistically, this almost never happens so the discussion is mostly academic....it just seems odd to me.
I agree about the oddity of it... what could be an answer... give O ball at 25 ... which is still in FG range?The fumble rule just seems inconsistent. If the incompetent O fumbles out of bounds on the 5 yard line, they get the ball back at the 5 yard line (or spot of the fumble). However, if the incompetent O fumbles it out of bounds in the end zone, they lose possession. Huge difference. Are there any other rules or even penalties that result in a possession change?
I know that realistically, this almost never happens so the discussion is mostly academic....it just seems odd to me.
There is already a rule that allows a team a free kick after a fair catch. Nobody ever uses it. But, I have a brother-in-law who refs high school ball in GA. He was officiating a playoff game one time and a coach used this rule. The opposing coach went nuts. Actually everyone n the stadium went nuts because no one had ever seen it in a game. Free 3 points.I've always thought there should be a change to kickoffs that makes it actually interesting:
This would change the kicker landscape and drive up their value. Imagine how much Justin Tucker would be worth in this scenario. It would also make for some interesting end-of-game scenarios we hadn't seen before.
- Any kickoff that goes through the uprights is worth 1 point.
- Any kickoff that goes out of the endzone, or out of bounds, starts at the 35. So a missed try at the 1 point would go to the 35.
- Any other kickoff that results in a touchback (whether kneeled or waived off) goes to the 20.
I've always thought there should be a change to kickoffs that makes it actually interesting:
This would change the kicker landscape and drive up their value. Imagine how much Justin Tucker would be worth in this scenario. It would also make for some interesting end-of-game scenarios we hadn't seen before.
- Any kickoff that goes through the uprights is worth 1 point.
- Any kickoff that goes out of the endzone, or out of bounds, starts at the 35. So a missed try at the 1 point would go to the 35.
- Any other kickoff that results in a touchback (whether kneeled or waived off) goes to the 20.
It’s happened in the NFL as well, can’t recall the team but early 2000’s.There is already a rule that allows a team a free kick after a fair catch. Nobody ever uses it. But, I have a brother-in-law who refs high school ball in GA. He was officiating a playoff game one time and a coach used this rule. The opposing coach went nuts. Actually everyone n the stadium went nuts because no one had ever seen it in a game. Free 3 points.
pinning them at the 15 would also be acceptable I thinkInteresting idea.... I have been saying that if the kicker kicks it through the uprights on the KO that the ball should be placed at the 15... if it goes out of the endzone then ball at the 30 otherwise ball at the 15...
The whole reason that they changed the ball starting at the 25yd line on a touchback was to try and prevent as many returns...so I don't see them moving a touchback back to the 20yd line
FR still counts even if the ball carrier just chucks it down. No different. D didn’t cause the fumble, guy carrying the ball did.This thread was TLDR so apologies if this has been mentioned.
But my least favorite rule in all of sports, is that if you stretch the ball out trying to reach the goal line, and drop the ball and it goes through the endzone, it's a turnover and a touchback for the other team.
In many cases, the defense did NOTHING to earn a turnover. They didn't strip the ball, they didn't recover the ball. Why is this a turnover? It's WAY too punitive.
Any other spot on the field, the ball goes back to the spot of the fumble if it goes out of bounds. Why is it different in the endzone? The rule punishes effort, which I hate.