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Oh yea because this franchise has such an amazing track record of developing QBs. We've never come close to producing an above average passing attack. Mariota failed but it wasn't all on him. This franchise deserves at the very least half of the blame. Stop acting like your shit dont stink.Bottom line, in total, he failed. He is a failure. He has set this franchise back years. If he had delivered, we would be a legit super bowl contender right now. But, he failed.
Oh yea because this franchise has such an amazing track record of developing QBs. We've never come close to producing an above average passing attack. Mariota failed but it wasn't all on him. This franchise deserves at the very least half of the blame. Stop acting like your **** dont stink.
The other people you’re blaming (outside the current tandem) have all been held accountable. That’s why they’re not coaching with the titans anymore.JR1980 said:. "The bust bar? Dude has been straight ass in the NFL. I have no problems if you like the kid and his time at Oregon, but he has been abysmal in the NFL."
Sure, Mariota has not played to his great potential, and at times has looked stiffer than a board, so in all fairness to him, we need to include Vrabel, all OCs and other coaches that worked with Mariota as being "bust bars" and "abysmal" as well. What makes them so "not to blame" that we would overlook their inefficiencies?
Mariota is considered to have regressed but I don't know how it's possible for a QB and a QB alone to regress unless he had a little help from the demons in his ear.
If Mariota receives a play to run with the ball to the opponents endzone and jump up & down until he's tackled, and he does so, should we blame him, only? If he's told to pass the ball without an adequate supply of blockers some six consecutive times and on the sixth attempt gets sacked, fumbles and the opponent runs it in for a TD, do we blame him, only? Also shxtty formations and sets where a 3rd down is dead in the water. blame him, only? I think much or all of the blame should be on the one that told him to do that. What? We're gonna turn a blind eye to this?
Mariota should have refused to play for a team unless he was happy with the experience and success of the coaching staff because dimwits can ruin his career. But it's all about da money, we know that.
Coaches rarely point the finger at themselves but anybody that knows something about the game will tell you that it takes at least two to tango. If you don't believe that, just ask Tom Brady if he would have been successful without the wits of Bill Bellichick. He would tell you that he couldn't have done it without him.
It's two or three people working together that makes a QB look good. Two or three becoming one. If the QB goes down they all go down. So there are other @$$e$ to fry here for Mariota's offensive woes.
Multiple regimes here have all tried hiding the QB for some reason.....The other people you’re blaming (outside the current tandem) have all been held accountable. That’s why they’re not coaching with the titans anymore.
Mariota himself (just like any other QB in the league) always has the option to read a defense and change the play. Since he can’t read a defense he doesn’t ever do this.
None of what you said explains his inability to let go of the ball. He learned to improve his fumbling issue so well that he just doesn’t want to give up the rock so he just takes sacks over and over and over. That’s all Mariota. I have no doubt that all of his coaches passed on telling him “don’t ever throw the ball. Just hold it as long as you can.”
This... I think he could've been serviceable-to-above average if he had gone to a team that cares about developing players.That’s the type of hyperbole that pisses off a lot of people.
he hasn’t been “total ass” his entire time.
it is what it is now, but to be so blind to see that he did do some good on this team is crap.
And we never will until this franchise takes a long look at itself and decides to develop players.Oh yea because this franchise has such an amazing track record of developing QBs. We've never come close to producing an above average passing attack. Mariota failed but it wasn't all on him. This franchise deserves at the very least half of the blame. Stop acting like your **** dont stink.
Yes, it is... until this team becomes a legit development team, we will never have a good drafted QB.4 OCs, 3 HCs and it's on us?
Mary gets ppl fired
When a guy like Tannehill comes in and has none of the same problems the other guy had, it's not on everyone for that guys failures
Mariota can't read a defense, can't deal with even the faintest hint of pressure, can't deliver an accurate pass on a relatively consistent basis. He's a boat anchor of a QB and Tannehill is a massive improvement.HoorayTitans! said:. "Mariota himself (just like any other QB in the league) always has the option to read a defense and change the play. Since he can’t read a defense he doesn’t ever do this."
Well it's not his job. The OC is fully in control of each and every play. Even changing the play at the line of scrimmage. How? The QB has an ear piece. Any and all changes are made by the OC, that's his job. So you're blaming Mariota for bad reads? Mmnnn. I think you're not the only one.
HoorayTitans! said:. None of what you said explains his inability to let go of the ball. He learned to improve his fumbling issue so well that he just doesn’t want to give up the rock so he just takes sacks over and over and over.
Again it's the incompetence by the OC to change the play at the line of scrimmage. He doesn't know a blitz from a hole in the ground. That's why Mariota looks so bad. If Mariota were calling the plays he would burn those linebackers but unfortunately he's got to listen to his coach and that's why he doesn't have enough time to throw the ball and gets sacked all the time. I would imagine the OC rats to the HC that Mariota is regressing and so he gets benched. That's a good thing not a bad thing. Lol
Pray for Tannehill.
Ear piece aside, QBs have the ability to read the D and change plays themselves. He can’t read a defense so he hasn’t no idea when to change it or what to change it to.HoorayTitans! said:. "Mariota himself (just like any other QB in the league) always has the option to read a defense and change the play. Since he can’t read a defense he doesn’t ever do this."
Well it's not his job. The OC is fully in control of each and every play. Even changing the play at the line of scrimmage. How? The QB has an ear piece. Any and all changes are made by the OC, that's his job. So you're blaming Mariota for bad reads? Mmnnn. I think you're not the only one.
HoorayTitans! said:. None of what you said explains his inability to let go of the ball. He learned to improve his fumbling issue so well that he just doesn’t want to give up the rock so he just takes sacks over and over and over.
Again it's the incompetence by the OC to change the play at the line of scrimmage. He doesn't know a blitz from a hole in the ground. That's why Mariota looks so bad. If Mariota were calling the plays he would burn those linebackers but unfortunately he's got to listen to his coach and that's why he doesn't have enough time to throw the ball and gets sacked all the time. I would imagine the OC rats to the HC that Mariota is regressing and so he gets benched. That's a good thing not a bad thing. Lol
Pray for Tannehill.
abc2330 said:. "Mariota can't read a defense, can't deal with even the faintest hint of pressure, can't deliver an accurate pass on a relatively consistent basis. He's a boat anchor of a QB and Tannehill is a massive improvement."
So I presume you are saying that Mariota cannot read a defense after the ball is hiked. First of all, the play has already been called by the OC and it's too late to read the defense, Mariota's job is to find an open receiver, it's very hard to do that when you are being blitzed from three different directions and nowhere to go. The Titans are the worst in the NFL at pass protection and a lot of that has to do with their 5 receiver sets resulting in an absence of blockers. Only teams that have a dominating front line would even attempt such a formation and then again they only do it occasionally. The Titans run it practically all the time and they don't have a dominating line. You should expect a lot of sacks, rushed passes, accuracy problems. It's perfectly normal. It's the price you pay when you try to increase your odds of finding an open receiver. You do it at your QBs expense. I have watched football for many years and I have never seen a coaching staff put their QB in harm's way as often as the Titans have. It's almost as if they do it on purpose.
Miami fans considered Tannehill to be mediocre. His winning percentage is below 50%. If you think that he's a massive improvement then you need to look at Mariota's winning percentage and decide if you want to win or lose. Your choice. The last time Tannehill played the bucs was week 16 of the 2018 regular season, his initial drive was impressive resulting in a touchdown, however it would be the only score the dolphins would make. Tannehill was sacked so often that he hurried a pass which resulted in a pic-six. The bucs were all over him. It was perhaps theee game that got him traded to the Titans. Like Mariota, Tannehill needs a good play caller, unfortunately he came to the wrong place.
So tomorrow is a chance for him to prove his critics wrong. If he doesn't we may see Mariota back in the lion's den. The bucs did Tannehill in before and they might just do it again.
This explains a lot about your lack of understanding g what’s going on. You absolutely can read a defense before the ball is hiked. It’s preferred actually but if he could read a defense afterwards, he probably be better than he is.So I presume you are saying that Mariota cannot read a defense after the ball is hiked. First of all, the play has already been called by the OC and it's too late to read the defense,
While I agree we don’t really have the line to go 5 wide, you can still read a blitz ahead and make a quick route throw.Mariota's job is to find an open receiver, it's very hard to do that when you are being blitzed from three different directions and nowhere to go. The Titans are the worst in the NFL at pass protection and a lot of that has to do with their 5 receiver sets resulting in an absence of blockers.
The QB is the one standing with the ball looking for open WRs. You should never expect sacks, rushed passes or accuracy problems. You can anticipate some issues but that’s what you’re looking for in a QB, guys that can handle the blitzes, make accurate throws, and avoid taking sacks. Mariota fails at all 3.Only teams that have a dominating front line would even attempt such a formation and then again they only do it occasionally. The Titans run it practically all the time and they don't have a dominating line. You should expect a lot of sacks, rushed passes, accuracy problems. It's perfectly normal. It's the price you pay when you try to increase your odds of finding an open receiver. You do it at your QBs expense. I have watched football for many years and I have never seen a coaching staff put their QB in harm's way as often as the Titans have. It's almost as if they do it on purpose.
Why did tom brady have a worse game than mariota versus the Bill's, a top 5 defense?This explains a lot about your lack of understanding g what’s going on. You absolutely can read a defense before the ball is hiked. It’s preferred actually but if he could read a defense afterwards, he probably be better than he is.
While I agree we don’t really have the line to go 5 wide, you can still read a blitz ahead and make a quick route throw.
The QB is the one standing with the ball looking for open WRs. You should never expect sacks, rushed passes or accuracy problems. You can anticipate some issues but that’s what you’re looking for in a QB, guys that can handle the blitzes, make accurate throws, and avoid taking sacks. Mariota fails at all 3.
Same way we beat the Patriots last year and didn't make the playoffs, while the Patriots won it allWhy did tom brady have a worse game than mariota versus the Bill's, a top 5 defense?
What criteria are you looking for here?Why did tom brady have a worse game than mariota versus the Bill's, a top 5 defense?