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Can You Say Average?

Actually his record is 97-86 or 102-90 counting the post season..

Still a 53.5% winning percentage is very average when you consider the players he has had over the years...
 
Come on people's give the guy a break, we'll get back to winning have some faith in the guy's skills. Hell, he could have a coaching record of 100-30, and we could go to the playoff's every year, but if we never go to the Super Bowl and win, then his record wouldn't mean schick anyway.
 
I like Fisher, think he normally adapts well, but his feet seem stuck in the mud. It's like he can't see what we all see so clearly.
 
PhiSlammaJamma said:
I like Fisher, think he normally adapts well, but his feet seem stuck in the mud. It's like he can't see what we all see so clearly.

well thing is no team is beating down our doors to be HC or GM.
 
ZELL22 said:
but if we never go to the Super Bowl and win, then his record wouldn't mean schick anyway.

So you'd rather have one Super Bowl win and 9 years of sucking wind rather than 10 consecutive playoff seasons without a Super Bowl win? Count me out.

I mean yeah, I'd love a Super Bowl win too, but right now I'm just trying to make it a little bit more fun to go to the games. I'm trying to avoid walking out of my home stadium and having to listen to jerks with NJ accents hollerin' J-E-T-S Jets Jets Jets!

I'd love it if I didn't have to listen to Jaguars fans talk smack as they leave our house. I'd love it if we could play the Colts and still be in the game with 10 minutes left.

Rah rah for the Super Bowl, but I'm just getting sick of losing. I'm tired of it. I'll be in my seats every week regardless, but I'm ready to see some W's and after yesterday, it's hard to imagine who we're going to beat.
 
Look, the $$ comes out of my pocket to see a home game. I wouldn't give a rat's tail if we went 8-8 most years as long as we dominate our field.

WE HAVE NO HOME FIELD ADVANTAGE. (we have no field advantage, but I'd settle for a decent home win). What is the franchise giving to the people to shell out? For the past 3 years, maybe 5 home wins and it looks our only shot at a home win is versus the Texans (and that is by no means a lock).
 
The overall mentality of the team trickles down from the head coach. Our team plays not to lose. We aren't aggressive at any aspect of our game plan. We play scared on offense and take no chances down field... Same goes for the D. We hardly rush the QB and when we did it seemed effective. We looked afraid... That comes from Fisher not the coordinators. We looked un-prepared.



:banned: I'll save my opinons about our recieving for another thread!:gag:
 
Riverman said:
WE HAVE NO HOME FIELD ADVANTAGE.
Doesn't help when the crowd boos the QB after Gods Only Son, Drew Bennett, drops another big pass - and The Great Ben Troupe hands one over. It was embarrassing.
 
Brian said:
Doesn't help when the crowd boos the QB after Gods Only Son, Drew Bennett, drops another big pass - and The Great Ben Troupe hands one over. It was embarrassing.

I have to agree. Colllins was certainly not impressive, but considering the fact he had only been with the team for a week and a half, he could have been much worse. And we could have Peyton Manning or Carson Palmer out there but if guys bat the ball up in the air, or let it go right through their hands then the QB doesnt really matter anyway. But, I cut the fans some slack on the booing because I would think it was directed at Fisher just as much as Collins, or it should have been anyway. Bringing in Collins so late to be your starting QB was just dumb. Especially when he was just sitting there all off season waiting for us to give him the opportunity.
 
Brian said:
Doesn't help when the crowd boos the QB after Gods Only Son, Drew Bennett, drops another big pass - and The Great Ben Troupe hands one over. It was embarrassing.

I was there. The crowd booed when appropriate. It was the loudest when KC was having his passes slapped back at him and when he was throwing to God only knows who or throwing it away after 1 read. He, Chow and Fisher deserved all the booing they got.

In reality, it is THE FANS home field. The fans buy the PSL's, the tickets, the $75 jerseys, the $4 cokes, $7 beer, $6 hot dogs etc. The fans were expressing their dissatisfaction with the organization's abuse of their home field. Don't buy in to what I'm saying? See how long the team has a home field when the "fans" give up on the organization.

The franchise-fan relationship is a mutually symbiotic relationship. Right now, the franchise is NOT keeping up their end. Things don't change, it won't be long before the fans quit keep up theirs.
 
Riverman said:
I was there. The crowd booed when appropriate. It was the loudest when KC was having his passes slapped back at him.
I don't tape the games, but that usually has something to do with the protection. Ah, but our OL is top shelf so it couldn't be their fault. Blame the new 6'5" QB. Nice job.

Riverman said:
See how long the team has a home field when the "fans" give up on the organization.
It took about 5 minutes yesterday. Nice job.
 
You didn't have to be there to know when to boo or not. There were a couple of plays that should've been made that would've made a huge difference. I my opinion, Bennetts isn't very good. How many crucial passes does he need to drop before he's moved down to #3 or 4 in depth or the QB's quit throwing him the in presure situations. It's let down after let down with him and I'm sick of it. Fans should've been Booing Fisher for not having this team prepared.
 
Broken Record said:
So you'd rather have one Super Bowl win and 9 years of sucking wind rather than 10 consecutive playoff seasons without a Super Bowl win? Count me out.

I mean yeah, I'd love a Super Bowl win too, but right now I'm just trying to make it a little bit more fun to go to the games. I'm trying to avoid walking out of my home stadium and having to listen to jerks with NJ accents hollerin' J-E-T-S Jets Jets Jets!

I'd love it if I didn't have to listen to Jaguars fans talk smack as they leave our house. I'd love it if we could play the Colts and still be in the game with 10 minutes left.

Rah rah for the Super Bowl, but I'm just getting sick of losing. I'm tired of it. I'll be in my seats every week regardless, but I'm ready to see some W's and after yesterday, it's hard to imagine who we're going to beat.

I hear you, and I agree with that as well, I'm only saying that he's a great coach even though we've been hurting the past couple of years. I just think of all the Hall of famers out there who never won a Superbowl title, and IMO, all of them would trade that honor for to be a world champion, ask any of the Buffalo Bills (0-4). Marv Levy, would definately agree with it. We'll get it turned around, and JFish, will be there when it does, hell he did it once, he can do it again. In my book he is on a three year plan to turn this around, he gets a pass for the last two seasons, and this one he definately needs to show up, next year we better be in the playoff's for sure.
 
The boo's were appropriate, and would have been more if this team played in NY, or ANYWHERE else.

Once, when the O was coming back on they flashed VY's pic on the jumbo-tron and people cheered, until they saw Collins was the one actually on the field.
 
rcarie said:
You didn't have to be there to know when to boo or not. There were a couple of plays that should've been made that would've made a huge difference. I my opinion, Bennetts isn't very good. How many crucial passes does he need to drop before he's moved down to #3 or 4 in depth or the QB's quit throwing him the in presure situations. It's let down after let down with him and I'm sick of it. Fans should've been Booing Fisher for not having this team prepared.

You know what, we are hurting. We're even beating up on DB now. Sure he drops a pass here and there, I know b/c no one was as mad at him as anyone, on the forth down play against New England in the playoffs that he dropped that ended the game for us, but lets give the kid a break. JFish did have them ready to play, He can't block for them, catch missed passes, or make KC grow two more feet so he can stop getting balls batted down. He can't control these guys like puppets, bottom line...THE PLAYERS HAVE TO PLAY, they just played bad. First game, they will figure it out and get it together. We all have to remember, contrary to opinion I honestly believe we ARE rebuilding. I give it another year then the chemeistry will be there, and we will not have to have these microscopic topics. I am as pissed off as anyone and ready to hand some team a throbbing beat down, but patience, they too will come.
 
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