Joints being popped out of socket from impact have nothing to do with conditioning, nothing at all. Have you ever had a joint out of socket, I have and it eventually healed where it doesn't pop out anymore or go into extreme pain, after 2 years. I am 39 and this happened 4 years ago. It had nothing to do with the conditioning (it was my pinky). It was knocked out of socket by impact on the Bball court. Now, injuries are unfortunate and Andre did lose his job officially in injured status. 7th round job loss, hmm, no denying it happened and Andre is a fighter and quoting him: "That was the worst day of my life" Those were his words, being injured again, but he knew it wasn't season ending. He will fight hard, work hard, etc. and battle for the spot again next training camp. Now what will you or anyone else on the board say if he wins the starting CB spot back in camp. Will you say it was given or will you admit he earned it..... At this point in the season, it really doesn't matter. I have one week left to chill on this board and I will be back in late spring for a cameo and then in Camp for the continued saga.......... Just believe this people. I don't know what is going to happen at WR or at RB, but the CB spots will be a battle next fall. 2 years left on a guaranteed is for sure, so the battle will ensue. I guess all you finallity type of talkers as in he is a bust - cut him, will become ex-fans if (when) he wins the job back. You'll probably call for Fisher's removal or something. You'll say why. I will say, because you are not a coach and don't make the decisions. There is no special treatment, so just like Hill earned his spot, he has to fight to keep it. He has been burned just as regulary as he has made plays. In the last 4 games, Andre was beat for a TD one time, by Marvin Harrison from the 7 yard line and he was there just didn't stop him from scoring. Hill was beat about 7 times. The last two games, only one pass for 12 yards was caught on Andre and they needed 17 (he made the tackle). Sounds like improvement to me. All the passes went to the outside because he was covering the slot receiver well enough to take that part of the field away - He is improving and the longest epic post in my board posting days is finally done. WU:yell2: :rotfl: :cool2: