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I would like to keep an OC for more then a season at a time.
That's very GoT like...drops BS, Troll, Boring ratings with nothing meaningful to add
Do we know what level of involvement Schwartz had and where?When your coordinators need a consultant to help them succeed, maybe you need new coordinators. Maybe even let the consultant be the coordinator. I’ve never heard of paying a coordinator and also having to pay someone else to hold their hand. That’s why this franchise can never finish the job.
Do we know what level of involvement Schwartz had and where?
Whatever the level, the Titans D was the strength of the team this year. Whether Bowen got better, Schwartz addressed a need, the talent improved or all the above, everyone here who called for Bowen to be fired was wrong.
You obviously feel Downing is incompetent and I too question some of the things he does as I have every OC the Titans has ever had. But I think he catches a lot of blame for player mistakes and had his hands tied behind his back most of the season due to injuries.
Because of this, I don’t think Vrabel will fire Downing and, if Vrabel decides to take the same approach he did with Bowen, I welcome it if it gets the offense back to were it was last season.
Do we know what level of involvement Schwartz had and where?
Whatever the level, the Titans D was the strength of the team this year. Whether Bowen got better, Schwartz addressed a need, the talent improved or all the above, everyone here who called for Bowen to be fired was wrong.
You obviously feel Downing is incompetent and I too question some of the things he does as I have every OC the Titans has ever had. But I think he catches a lot of blame for player mistakes and had his hands tied behind his back most of the season due to injuries.
Because of this, I don’t think Vrabel will fire Downing and, if Vrabel decides to take the same approach he did with Bowen, I welcome it if it gets the offense back to were it was last season.
I actually thought about his name earlier today and was gonna make a joke about him being better than downing even if dead. I have no idea on his living abilities.Norv Turner still alive?
I’ve not read anything about the level of Schwartz’s involvement. If you have, please share the source. Otherwise, it’s just speculation.I believe that Schwartz played a big role in helping our defense improve….his defenses have always been solid against the run, have good sack numbers and good 3rd down stop %…..we greatly improved in all those areas….no doubt the addition of players help as well, but I just don’t think it was a coincidence that we improved in all of those key areas that have been staples of Schwartz defense
I’ve not read anything about the level of Schwartz’s involvement. If you have, please share the source. Otherwise, it’s just speculation.
Again, you have no clue as the overall involvement of Schwartz—especially that he “told Bowen what to do”.If Bowen had to have another man tell him how to do his job, how was everyone who called for him to be fired, wrong? The point of having a coordinator is they know how to do their job and run the offense/defense. If you’re coordinators need to be told what to do, they shouldn’t be coordinators to begin with.
Vague as most things that come out of Vrabel’s mouth.
Funny how the defense looked totally different this year then. We constantly ran 4 man fronts and did the same pass rush stunts we did when Fisher was head coach. Even the wide 9. Guess it was just a coincidence that Schwartz is hired and then we start running his defense….Again, you have no clue as the overall involvement of Schwartz—especially that he “told Bowen what to do”.
That’s Vrabel’s job. His coordinators do his bidding. He didn’t even formally call Bowen his DC last season.
screw your level headed pragmatism!Do we know what level of involvement Schwartz had and where?
Whatever the level, the Titans D was the strength of the team this year. Whether Bowen got better, Schwartz addressed a need, the talent improved or all the above, everyone here who called for Bowen to be fired was wrong.
You obviously feel Downing is incompetent and I too question some of the things he does as I have every OC the Titans has ever had. But I think he catches a lot of blame for player mistakes and had his hands tied behind his back most of the season due to injuries.
Because of this, I don’t think Vrabel will fire Downing and, if Vrabel decides to take the same approach he did with Bowen, I welcome it if it gets the offense back to were it was last season.
Yes. He was clearly brought in because of his knowledge and experience. Incorporating some of that into the defensive scheme is far from him telling Bowen what to do.Funny how the defense looked totally different this year then. We constantly ran 4 man fronts and did the same pass rush stunts we did when Fisher was head coach. Even the wide 9. Guess it was just a coincidence that Schwartz is hired and then we start running his defense….
Yes. He was clearly brought in because of his knowledge and experience. Incorporating some of that into the defensive scheme is far from him telling Bowen what to do.
That’s why I don’t think it’s crazy to think Vrabel might consider bringing in someone to help with the offense without firing Downing.
Exactly. @TitanJeff is making no sense. I guess we need two head coaches and two GM’s too.What does that say about Vrabel if he has to bring in someone to help out the DC/OC? Why not just hire someone who doesn't need to be held by the hand.