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Watson stays in Houston. He wasn’t going anywhere regardless of the scandal. Price was too high.
What a mess. Can’t trade him, doesn’t want to play for ya. We should feel fortunateBased on what he is saying and most now believe him he will never play again if he stays in Houston. He appears dug in. They trade him for pennies now.
Well done. What a backpedal!
I second the opinion to shut this down. There is nothing new shared from day to day and civility has been replaced by... something else. When something moves this case forward happy to revisit, but this thread is clearly bringing out the worst in us.(NOTE- @Alzarius and I normally agree on a lot of issues and this is the first time I've found a post by him objectionable. Regardless, I have a lot of respect for him based off of his other posts and for efficiency won't quote it here.)
Not a backpedal from me at all:
First, my message has been consistent throughout this thread. Second, those quotes are: 1) paraphrased 2) selected from a post without quoting the post in its entirety and 3) purposefully omitted other posts that present the balance and reason for those poorly paraphrased statements.
Those poorly paraphrased statements were in response to the context of dialogue of a few posters that suggested the sheer volume of complaints PROVES Watson is guilty, that "home massueses" are ENTIRELY credible and there is no possibility that this could simply be a money making move by a plaintiff's attorney. Yes- I used inflammatory rhetoric, however, it was only equal in tone in response to some VERY biased statements by a few posters. Some even admitted their bias. I try to conduct my dialogue in a respectful manner regardless of a difference of opinion. I try to not misrepresent others statements to bolster my own. I've found a few posters very trying to this principle, so I'll respectfully bow out.
And finally, it appears I need to state a summary of my position so that the cheap debate tactic of misrepresentation doesn't tarnish my message.
Watson may or may not have committed the allegations. He and the plaintiffs are entitled to due process to determine the merit of the allegations. The plaintiff's identities are protected where as Watson's identity is not, so HE suffers financial damage whether or not a court judges these claims have merit. Watson's past good reputation has an influence on his present credibility. The plaintiff's credibility is not allowed to be discovered in the public forum, aside from their occupation. The "home masseuse" industry is full of honest hard working persons not interested in supplying sexual service. However, there ARE persons who work in the "home masseuse" industry that do indeed provide sexual services for hire. IMHO, Watson most likely incorrectly assumed all those that responded to solicitations on the internet would provide sexual services. Watson undoubtedly exercised poor judgement in how he approached his desire for sexual gratification as well as how he responded to the initial complaints presented to him. I believe in our judicial process and it will get sorted out to be as fair and equitable a process as it can be. We'll never know the true details of merit of the claims. The plaintiffs and especially their legal representation will make a LOT of money off of this entire affair, regardless of the legal outcome if they so choose (interviews, books, etc). Watson will LOSE a lot of money regardless of the legal outcome. If it determined he is "guilty" of ONE of these allegations, I want him to be punished. But not until then.
That's it. I'm out of this thread. If you respond, respond to the above summary and don't quote part of it, paraphrase it or quote me as something that I stated that I simply never said. I'm OK if this thread gets closed. I've found it revealing and polarizing. And honestly I'm just fatigued of folks b!tching about their differences rather than celebrating what we have in common.
Flip of a coin...<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Another of the lawsuits filed against Deshaun Watson today alleges sexual assault during a massage appt on Oct. 19, '20 @ 1130 a.m. A previous lawsuit (no. 6) alleges an appt with Watson occurred on Oct. 19. <br>That's two massage appts in 1 day, both occurring at plaintiff's office</p>— Kalyn Kahler (@kalynkahler) <a href=" ">March 29, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
2 in 1 day. This was the day after the OT loss to our Titans.
He was clearly triggered by that loss.
(NOTE- @Alzarius and I normally agree on a lot of issues and this is the first time I've found a post by him objectionable. Regardless, I have a lot of respect for him based off of his other posts and for efficiency won't quote it here.)
Not a backpedal from me at all:
First, my message has been consistent throughout this thread. Second, those quotes are: 1) paraphrased 2) selected from a post without quoting the post in its entirety and 3) purposefully omitted other posts that present the balance and reason for those poorly paraphrased statements.
Those poorly paraphrased statements were in response to the context of dialogue of a few posters that suggested the sheer volume of complaints PROVES Watson is guilty, that "home massueses" are ENTIRELY credible and there is no possibility that this could simply be a money making move by a plaintiff's attorney. Yes- I used inflammatory rhetoric, however, it was only equal in tone in response to some VERY biased statements by a few posters. Some even admitted their bias. I try to conduct my dialogue in a respectful manner regardless of a difference of opinion. I try to not misrepresent others statements to bolster my own. I've found a few posters very trying to this principle, so I'll respectfully bow out.
And finally, it appears I need to state a summary of my position so that the cheap debate tactic of misrepresentation doesn't tarnish my message.
Watson may or may not have committed the allegations. He and the plaintiffs are entitled to due process to determine the merit of the allegations. The plaintiff's identities are protected where as Watson's identity is not, so HE suffers financial damage whether or not a court judges these claims have merit. Watson's past good reputation has an influence on his present credibility. The plaintiff's credibility is not allowed to be discovered in the public forum, aside from their occupation. The "home masseuse" industry is full of honest hard working persons not interested in supplying sexual service. However, there ARE persons who work in the "home masseuse" industry that do indeed provide sexual services for hire. IMHO, Watson most likely incorrectly assumed all those that responded to solicitations on the internet would provide sexual services. Watson undoubtedly exercised poor judgement in how he approached his desire for sexual gratification as well as how he responded to the initial complaints presented to him. I believe in our judicial process and it will get sorted out to be as fair and equitable a process as it can be. We'll never know the true details of merit of the claims. The plaintiffs and especially their legal representation will make a LOT of money off of this entire affair, regardless of the legal outcome if they so choose (interviews, books, etc). Watson will LOSE a lot of money regardless of the legal outcome. If it determined he is "guilty" of ONE of these allegations, I want him to be punished. But not until then.
That's it. I'm out of this thread. If you respond, respond to the above summary and don't quote part of it, paraphrase it or quote me as something that I stated that I simply never said. I'm OK if this thread gets closed. I've found it revealing and polarizing. And honestly I'm just fatigued of folks b!tching about their differences rather than celebrating what we have in common.
That seems like a pretty damning story. The fact she is separate entirely from the “group” with Buzbee really hurts the pile on theory.A Massage Therapist Tells Her Story of Deshaun Watson’s Behavior
Not a Buzbee Client. This allegedly occurred in 2019 and is the exact same type of behavior.
That seems like a pretty damning story. The fact she is separate entirely from the “group” with Buzbee really hurts the pile on theory.
It adds to the credibility of the Buzbee Clients. Then you add in that most of the women made immediate outcries to friends and family is all getting pretty damning. Rusty Hardin must be pulling his hair out.
From a football perspective I am almost 100% sure he doesn’t play in the NFL in 2021. I’m starting to believe it could be possible he never plays again.
That labrum surgery he had on his non-throwing shoulder is still going to be something serious, IMO. Any time he gets hit on that side or knocked down, its going to hurt that shoulder bad. Labrum recovery is no joke.Yep. Beginning to see some evidence now, albeit circumstantial.
He may well be done.
Wouldn't that be lucky for us? Two generational talents at qb in the division in luck and Watson, and both vanish early.
Now we just need Lawrence to bust hard.
But it could be... like, what did the labrum say to the sternum?That labrum surgery he had on his non-throwing shoulder is still going to be something serious, IMO. Any time he gets hit on that side or knocked down, its going to hurt that shoulder bad. Labrum recovery is no joke.