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How the fuck is it the QB fault when it comes to snap count? The QB literally saids ok on 3 etc etc. If you get beat of the snap it's on you as a tackle. Conklin is just slow and fast defenders blow right by him. Has to have his daddy fight his bully's for him now lol. Conklins just slow, weak, and a bust.
 
Sounds like a reasonably intriguing post from someone who has the inside scoop.

Just be honest. You know exactly when every snap is coming while you're watching at home. Watch Rodgers or some other elite QB and compare that to the pre snap regime that we have.

Great theory except it OL knows the count also. So how they getting beat so bad if it’s at best even?
 
Great theory except it OL knows the count also. So how they getting beat so bad if it’s at best even?
OL can't make a move prior to the snap. The defenders can begin their movements as long as they don't cross the line. Surely you can grasp this. If not, there is no hope for anyone else here.
 
OL can't make a move prior to the snap. The defenders can begin their movements as long as they don't cross the line. Surely you can grasp this. If not, there is no hope for anyone else here.

That’s if they know the count. Cadence is the delivery, not the count. Surely you can grasp this.

Even Kevin Dodd knows that.
 
So the whole OLine is stupid and they dont know when to start blocking? Sounds right.
 
So the whole OLine is stupid and they dont know when to start blocking? Sounds right.

There’s one play that comes to mind here honestly and Lewan and Conk both got blown off the ball. Lewan didn’t get out his stance until the defender was 2-3 steps up the field.
 
There’s one play that comes to mind here honestly and Lewan and Conk both got blown off the ball. Lewan didn’t get out his stance until the defender was 2-3 steps up the field.
It’s the lack of PED, he don’t thank too good
 
Showed pictures in another thread but they allowed the defense to line up over the ball a bunch with no calls. Add on to this a predictable snap count and it will be rough on any o-line.seems they get to the line late and always snap with little time left also. That allows a defense to predict the snap.
 
Both of above pics are sacs. You will notice where the defense is lined up. Also notice the time on the clock. Why the late snaps I am not sure. Is it that MM8 takes to long to read the defense and then rushed into a predictable routine for the snap? Might be on to something here
 
Stole this from Titans Report.

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Basically, the snap count is very predictable and defenses are allowed to get a jump and put the OL at a big disadvantage. Don't know if this is an OC or QB issue, but I think this has a big hand in the protection problems. And why Saffold has had a difficult time adjusting and showing issues he's never exhibited in the past.

You realize that you are saying the opposite thing as the quote?

Cadence means rhythm, flow, measure. Lack of cadence implies that the lineman get slow starts because they don't know when the ball is going to be snapped.
 
Ahh. I see the "it's the OC," talk has started. Just a matter of time.

It's the three head coaches, five offensive coordinators, countless offensive linemen, and numerous wide receivers. Never the QB.

It is possible for both the QB and the OC to be bad...

Drawing people offsides and keeping linemen honest was literally one of the very few things Mary has actually been good at.
 
That’s if they know the count. Cadence is the delivery, not the count. Surely you can grasp this.

Even Kevin Dodd knows that.
The entire point of the cadence is to keep the OL a step ahead and give them an advantage. Knowing the cadence (or lack thereof) is useless if the defense does as well .They practically know when the ball will be snapped and the OL will be scrambling to recover and match them. The human body can move forward a hell of a lot faster than it can backwards or laterally. That's what he's saying. I'm not sure why people play dumb just so they can "own" people or just use the "no excuses" caveman football mentality when there is a perfectly logical point to be taken from this and it aligns with what we're seeing.
 
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The entire point of the cadence is to keep the OL a step ahead and give them an advantage. Knowing the cadence (or lack thereof) is useless if the defense does as well .They practically know when the ball will be snapped and the OL will be scrambling to recover and match them. The human body can move forward a hell of a lot faster than it can backwards or laterally. That's what he's saying. I'm not sure why people play dumb just so they can "own" people or just use the "no excuses" caveman football mentality when there is a perfectly logical point to be taken from this and it aligns with what we're seeing.

even cavemen know that an Olineman goes to the line knowing the count. and has the advantage in that regard.

The D doesn’t, they go off sight of movement. A QB uses a cadence, hard counts etc to throw off predictability. The point that was made was that the cadence has been “inconsistent”. And that’s the Point of cadence to catch the D guessing. If an OL cant maintain his advantage knowing the count and is getting put at disadvantage with a cadence then that OLineman needs more practice.That was simply an excuse by an upset parent. I bet Conklin told his dad to take that chit down.

Never go full Dodd.
 
Showed pictures in another thread but they allowed the defense to line up over the ball a bunch with no calls. Add on to this a predictable snap count and it will be rough on any o-line.seems they get to the line late and always snap with little time left also. That allows a defense to predict the snap.
A "late" snap count has been a Titans staple since the day they became the Titans... never seemed to matter who the HC was.
 
This has the feel of an offensive mutiny. Hope I’m wrong. Everyone pointing fingers at someone else. This thing with Conklin, Walker’s extremely reduced usage (sure he’s not happy about that). When players start blaming everyone for their problems instead of taking accountability a locker room implosion is never far behind. We’re about to find out what Vrabel is made of. Can he nip this in the bud or will it get worse? We’ll find out in this episode of Titans Dumper Fire.
 
Conklin is getting blown up every single play -- naturally he's going to point the finger....
 
Guy who thinks Mariota is good and constantly makes excuses for him vs a guy who had direct access to the thought process of the players and actually knows what he's seeing. I'll give the latter more credibility.

you'd sell your colon virginity if it meant you got a rumor added to your agenda
 
snap count is a new one lol. Conk was an all pro with Mariota's snap count now all of a sudden it's a problem.
 
I'll have to pay attention during the next game, but my impression has been we're not using a snap count, at least not always.
Rather Mariota signals Jones when he's ready, and Jones then snaps it at will.
It's supposed to remove the possibility of the defense to guess the snap count, but I've always found it retarded because the defender will always have the advantage if both don't know when the ball will be snapped (better vision of the ball, going forwards as opposed to backwards, etc).
 
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