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Wow. That’s a completely subjective comment that I’m gonna take seriously. Thank you.Majority of SBs from NE that were won wasnt because of their defense. Look at all their SBs games and let me know what the scores were.
I think he stays put.I predict Dolphins 1st then Redskins 2nd
Wow. That’s a completely subjective comment that I’m gonna take seriously. Thank you.
To be ranked top 10 in the D, youn would have tomconsider an entire body of regular season work. So that said, SB contenders (winner/loser/most of the conf championship teams) have a tough D, typically within the top 10.
The way the SB game actually plays out is irrelevant to my point.
1 year earlier the 4 finals teams were 1,2,4,5 defensively but I will concede, you are correct it takes a balance. Those are truly the best teams. I will point out the Rams last season and Saints of 2009 (their SB year), were also league leaders in takeaways. There are also teams that still prove that not having an offense can still win, the 2015 broncos for example.Lol. To say the defense wins championship is pretty dumb. Neither one really favors the other. Majority of teams that win are well balanced.
During the last 20 years, the opposite of the defensive mantra has also happened. Teams with great offenses but mediocre defenses have come out on ahead, such as the 2006 Colts (second offense, 23rd defense) or the 2008 Saints (first offense, 20th defense). There have also been a couple of weird years where the Giants and Ravens won without being better than 10th in either offense or defense.
The high scoring 2018 season certainly falls outside of the “defense wins championship” boundaries both in the regular season and in the playoffs. The four teams that went into the AFC and NFC Championship games (Chiefs, Rams, Saints, Patriots) rank 1 through 4 in scoring offense. Only the Patriots rank in the top 10 in defense at No. 4. The Saints are at 14 while the Rams and Chiefs are at 20 and 24.
To assume that defense has the upper hand in this era is pretty ridiculous.
Also, since 2003, four Super Bowl winners have finished either first or second in scoring defense (’08 Steelers, ’10 Packers, ’13 Seahawks, ’16 Patriots). Even within these years of a dominant defensive team winning the title, the Super Bowl has sometimes turned into an offensive shootout as in 2003 between the Patriots and Panthers (32-29), 2010 between the Packers and Steelers (31-25) or 2016 with the Patriots and Seahawks (34-28). In spite of the Eagles and Patriots both finishing in the top five on defense in the 2017 season, they played a memorable 41-33 offensive shoutout in a Super Bowl where defense mattered only a little.
Apparently Houston wants Tunsil.. Miami is unwilling to include him and teammates wouldn't be happy if they didAccording to Aaron Wilson of the Houston Chronicle, the most significant discussions have come with the Miami Dolphins. However, the Texans have also spoken with the Philadelphia Eagles, Seattle Seahawks, Washington Redskins and New York Jets in regards to the standout pass rusher.
“Nothing has advanced” with any of the teams outside of Miami at this point.
We dont need that OL improving. It's their only weakness on O.Apparently Houston wants Tunsil.. Miami is unwilling to include him and teammates wouldn't be happy if they did
Report: Dolphins players would 'revolt' if team trades Tunsil for Clowney
1 year earlier the 4 finals teams were 1,2,4,5 defensively but I will concede, you are correct it takes a balance. Those are truly the best teams. I will point out the Rams last season and Saints of 2009 (their SB year), were also league leaders in takeaways. There are also teams that still prove that not having an offense can still win, the 2015 broncos for example.
I dont think the SB game itself is necessarily indicative to what got teams there, so occasionaly we see a game where both teams may actually be playing outside of what they had all season.
But to my original post.
I Said that I don’t think the Texans (or any team) will fair well by using a team with a bad defense, forcing the offense to win shootouts. (Paraphrased, didn’t go back to look it up) Of course this is based on my assumption that the Texans D would be terrible without Clowney and as I joked Watt injured again.
I know the defensive/offensive argument is subjective. I think we are seeing examples of the offense with mediocre defenses succeeding more than historically. I still don’t know that I’ve seen a bad defense win while we still see bad offenses with good defenses win.
This. They'd be scary if they had a good OL.We dont need that OL improving. It's their only weakness on O.
Based on what?That '15 Broncos defense is probably one if not the best defense we've ever witnessed. Those defenses dont come every year.
Based on what?
Disagree on the greatness level of that D.
Based on what?
Disagree on the greatness level of that D.
Still disagree. That broncos D was good, hard to argue they weren’t the best that particularly year but I can’t agree on that level.I dont see how you disagree. 2015 Denver Broncos ranks amongest one of the best we've seen. The stats can be misleading due to how inconsistent and turnover prone the Denver offense was for a major part of the year. Broncos defense in the playoffs was one of the most incredible things I've ever seen.
'85 Chicago, '13 Seattle, '00 Baltimore, '15 Denver, ' 02 Bucs
The only reason why the Steelers are not in the GOAT defense discussion is because their Superbowl performance wasn't so great.
Look at all the all-time great defenses and their Superbowl performances. 1985 Bears, 2000 Ravens, 2002 Bucs, 2013 Seahawks, 2015 Broncos. They all flat out won because of their defense and decimated their opponent.