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Gruden over rated.
Disagree depending on where you stand of his “rating”.

The guy built up a SB team in Oakland which was still a good enough team to get there with stupid Bill Callahan.

He should have gotten a ring in Oakland (the infamous tuck rule) then still kept a good TB team together to win it after dingy left.


Not saying he’s the greatest by any means or even the best coach in the league but he’s definately got the resume to back up being a solid choice for coach.
 
So... if Jeff Fisher had gone to another team that was already setup to win and taken them to and won the Super Bowl... he and Jon Gruden would be about the same.
 
Disagree depending on where you stand of his “rating”.

The guy built up a SB team in Oakland which was still a good enough team to get there with stupid Bill Callahan.

He should have gotten a ring in Oakland (the infamous tuck rule) then still kept a good TB team together to win it after dingy left.


Not saying he’s the greatest by any means or even the best coach in the league but he’s definately got the resume to back up being a solid choice for coach.

meh we'll see. That was Dungy's TB team. Gruden benefitted from a good draft.
 
So... if Jeff Fisher had gone to another team that was already setup to win and taken them to and won the Super Bowl... he and Jon Gruden would be about the same.
If the team he just left was also the team he played in the SB, maybe.
 
If the team he just left was also the team he played in the SB, maybe.
Fisher took the Titans to a Super Bowl and the team was a Super Bowl contender still.

So, about the same... had Gruden stayed in Oakland, probably would've been the same.

Gruden and Fisher have a lot in common, scarily enough.
 
Fisher took the Titans to a Super Bowl and the team was a Super Bowl contender still.

So, about the same... had Gruden stayed in Oakland, probably would've been the same.

Gruden and Fisher have a lot in common, scarily enough.
Eh, sort of. Fisher also stuck around in Tennessee to drive them into the dirt with a flair up in 2008.
Hard to know what happens in Oakland if he stays. He kept TB competitive most of his years after the SB.
He also proved he was garbage in Stl/LA. I suppose Gruden could still prove to be a fisher clone if Oakland gets no better over the next 3-4 years.
 
Wow, on a whim... Gruden at Tampa Bay:

2002 - 12-4 won Super Bowl
2003 - 7-9
2004 - 5-11
2005 - 11-5
2006 - 4-13
2007 - 9-7
2008 - 9-7

I wasn't completely serious, but now... yikes.
 
Isn't he missing practice because he got frostbite from misusing the cryochamber? This looks like a way to deflect his stupidity.
 
Isn't he missing practice because he got frostbite from misusing the cryochamber? This looks like a way to deflect his stupidity.

Originally yes, but he is over that, now he is sulking because the league and union will not let him wear an unsafe helmet.
 
AB threatened to punch Mayock in the face. He needs to be out of the NFL for good, clown.
 
TN should trade for him for a late round pick.

If he gets out line, just have Taylor Lewan say he’s gonna to suck his piece, then threaten to rape him if he tells anybody.
 
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