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Dangermode said:
The offensive skill starters from our incredible run last year are ALL returning. Losing Tajae and Lewis is fine, both will be upgraded in the draft. Maybe we can finally get that burner deep threat!

The defense let us down a bit last year. They could NOT get pressure on QBs consistently. If we get Clowney, our pass rush will be VASTLY better this year with a healthy Simmons, Clowney and Beasley. How good does that sound?!

As for Logan, well he really fell off down the stretch last year. Jackson, Butler and Brock all had significantly higher coverage grades. There’s a reason he hasn’t signed anywhere yet. I still believe we’re going CB in round one, but could see us bringing Brock back on the cheap.

Loooooong way to go till the season starts
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Our line has gotten way worse and so has the defense and depth at wr. Our defense was already trash last year and we've done nothing except lose key players and our d coordinator
 
Thanos22 said:
Our line has gotten way worse and so has the defense and depth at wr. Our defense was already trash last year and we've done nothing except lose key players and our d coordinator
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Saying the defense was trash last year is a considerable overstatement.
 
Thanos22 said:
Our line has gotten way worse and so has the defense and depth at wr. Our defense was already trash last year and we've done nothing except lose key players and our d coordinator
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I disagree that our line has gotten way worse. I think Kelly is only a slight downgrade from Conklin (WHEN Conklin plaid his best, remember how inconsistent he’s been over the years) and Nate Davis will be a year more experienced. Add to that a likely high pick this year and we should be fine there.

As for defense, losing Casey was massive, but until I see what the plan is there, the verdict is still out. Beasley COULD be a huge upgrade over Wake/Correa.

Yeah we lost Tajae but good for him. I’m happy he gets to go to a place where he can be a starter. This is one of the deepest WR drafts in history so I’m sure we can find a capable replacement for our 4th WR.
 
It is a silly question. Wait until after the last pre-season game and they announce the roster, then compare.
 
I agree that we don't know what the team will be like coming into the season, but of course, a message board is a place to discuss and speculate.

Adding to the unknowns prior to the draft in any year, we this year have the uncertainty due to COVID-19. Will it impact the NFL season? I sure as heck do not know.
 
Is it starting to sink in that JR chose Daquon Jones over Titans legend Jurrell Casey to save...drumroll....3 million dollars. Well, it is for me..

I haven't doubted JR since he's been here, but this move has me truly wondering if JR is the savior we all thought he was.... everyone knows im usually against negative thinking when it comes to stuff like this, but it is truly difficult not to look at this move and wonder ,"what in the actually fck is going on"?

In my opinion, it doesn't really matter "what the plan is". Never, not in a million years, should Casey have been let go over D Jones to save a measely 3 million in cap. We will find out alot about the future of our organization this year...stay tuned. Id love to eat my words, and Daquon come out and have a Casey-like impact for us this year, but cmon...we all know that's not happening...if anyone can enlighten me or make me feel better about this situation please, feel free.

If you want my opinion, I think JR got in over his head this offseason...he didn't know what to do with everything that needed to be done.. he had to do something though...those somethings included WAY overpaying a 1 hit wonder qb. This led to the irrational decision to trade our best defensive lineman and team captain Jurrell Casey In favor of Daquon Trashbag Jones.

Anyways, quarantine got me deep in my feels today i guess....stay safe out there friends. :anon:
 
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J Falk said:
Is it starting to sink in that JR chose Daquon Jones over Titans legend Jurrell Casey to save...drumroll....3 million dollars.

I haven't doubted JR since he's been here, but this move has me truly wondering if JR is the savior we all thought he was.... everyone knows im usually against negative thinking when it comes to stuff like this, but it is truly difficult not to look at this move and wonder ,"what in the actually *** is going on"?

In my opinion, it doesn't really matter "what the plan is". Never, not in a million years, should Casey have been let go over D Jones to save a measely 3 million in cap. We will find out alot about the future of our organization this year...stay tuned.

Stay safe out there friends
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I'm guessing JR based this on Casey being near the end of his career, playing at a high level....Team decided to move on. Time will have all the answers if this was the right decision.
 
JVC34 said:
I'm guessing JR based this on Casey being near the end of his career, playing at a high level....Team decided to move on. Time will have all the answers if this was the right decision.
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Casey was still making HUGE plays for us in HUGE moments all the way up until his last game in a titans jersey. Something none of us will ever say about D Jones....Ever...i hope that 3 million was worth it JR.
 
J Falk said:
Is it starting to sink in that JR chose Daquon Jones over Titans legend Jurrell Casey to save...drumroll....3 million dollars. Well, it is for me..

I haven't doubted JR since he's been here, but this move has me truly wondering if JR is the savior we all thought he was.... everyone knows im usually against negative thinking when it comes to stuff like this, but it is truly difficult not to look at this move and wonder ,"what in the actually *** is going on"?

In my opinion, it doesn't really matter "what the plan is". Never, not in a million years, should Casey have been let go over D Jones to save a measely 3 million in cap. We will find out alot about the future of our organization this year...stay tuned. Id love to eat my words, and Daquon come out and have a Casey-like impact for us this year, but cmon...we all know that's not happening...if anyone can enlighten me or make me feel better about this situation please, feel free.

If you want my opinion, I think JR got in over his head this offseason...he didn't know what to do with everything that needed to be done.. he had to do something though...those somethings included WAY overpaying a 1 hit wonder qb. This led to the irrational decision to trade our best defensive lineman and team captain Jurrell Casey In favor of Daquon Trashbag Jones.

Anyways, quarantine got me deep in my feels today i guess....stay safe out there friends. :anon:
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3 mil in cap can go a long way but also wasn’t this whole site praising Jones this offseason?
As players get older, gotta make business decisions. Sometimes you get burned, sometimes it pays off.
If Casey has a monster year for Denver, JRob was wrong for at least a year.
If Jones has a good year or Casey doesn’t, JRob was right. We’d also have to consider the use of the additional 3 mil.
 
Pretty much every time Casey made a play, it was from Jones winning his matchup and/or eating a block or 2.

So Jones is cheaper (giving you less cap mobility), younger, and arguably plays a role that is tougher to fill.
 
J Falk said:
Is it starting to sink in that JR chose Daquon Jones over Titans legend Jurrell Casey to save...drumroll....3 million dollars. Well, it is for me..

I haven't doubted JR since he's been here, but this move has me truly wondering if JR is the savior we all thought he was.... everyone knows im usually against negative thinking when it comes to stuff like this, but it is truly difficult not to look at this move and wonder ,"what in the actually *** is going on"?

In my opinion, it doesn't really matter "what the plan is". Never, not in a million years, should Casey have been let go over D Jones to save a measely 3 million in cap. We will find out alot about the future of our organization this year...stay tuned. Id love to eat my words, and Daquon come out and have a Casey-like impact for us this year, but cmon...we all know that's not happening...if anyone can enlighten me or make me feel better about this situation please, feel free.

If you want my opinion, I think JR got in over his head this offseason...he didn't know what to do with everything that needed to be done.. he had to do something though...those somethings included WAY overpaying a 1 hit wonder qb. This led to the irrational decision to trade our best defensive lineman and team captain Jurrell Casey In favor of Daquon Trashbag Jones.

Anyways, quarantine got me deep in my feels today i guess....stay safe out there friends. :anon:
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Of course JRob is a savior. Look at the dumpster fire roster we had when he got here and the one we have now.

Successful teams, in order to stay that way, have to part with high price veterans. JRob knows this. He learned it with the Patriots. Look at all the talent they had to let go of over the years...

It sucks. I wish the NFL was set up in such a way where it was easier to keep your homegrown talent throughout their careers. But it simply isn't possible.

Continuing to pay casey for past service as he declines would be a mistake. Paying a RB huge money long term is a mistake.

Next man up is the way the NFL works. We have to let people and replace them through the draft.
 
J Falk said:
Is it starting to sink in that JR chose Daquon Jones over Titans legend Jurrell Casey to save...drumroll....3 million dollars. Well, it is for me..

I haven't doubted JR since he's been here, but this move has me truly wondering if JR is the savior we all thought he was.... everyone knows im usually against negative thinking when it comes to stuff like this, but it is truly difficult not to look at this move and wonder ,"what in the actually *** is going on"?

In my opinion, it doesn't really matter "what the plan is". Never, not in a million years, should Casey have been let go over D Jones to save a measely 3 million in cap. We will find out alot about the future of our organization this year...stay tuned. Id love to eat my words, and Daquon come out and have a Casey-like impact for us this year, but cmon...we all know that's not happening...if anyone can enlighten me or make me feel better about this situation please, feel free.

If you want my opinion, I think JR got in over his head this offseason...he didn't know what to do with everything that needed to be done.. he had to do something though...those somethings included WAY overpaying a 1 hit wonder qb. This led to the irrational decision to trade our best defensive lineman and team captain Jurrell Casey In favor of Daquon Trashbag Jones.

Anyways, quarantine got me deep in my feels today i guess....stay safe out there friends. :anon:
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Where the f are you getting 3 million from? We saved 10mil or so.
 
Vorsutus said:
Where the f are you getting 3 million from? We saved 10mil or so.
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Cutting daquan wouldve saved 7 mil. Cutting casey saved 10 mil. 3 million difference....

We chose to keep daquan over Casey to save 3 million. Maybe there's more behind the scenes that i don't know about, but on the surface its a really bad move.
 
steverife said:
Pretty much every time Casey made a play, it was from Jones winning his matchup and/or eating a block or 2.

So Jones is cheaper (giving you less cap mobility), younger, and arguably plays a role that is tougher to fill.
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Whatever makes you feel better about the situation bro :beerbang:
 
J Falk said:
Cutting daquan wouldve saved 7 mil. Cutting casey saved 10 mil. 3 million difference....

We chose to keep daquan over Casey to save 3 million. Maybe there's more behind the scenes that i don't know about, but on the surface its a really bad move.
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Casey was a beter player but jones is younger. Jrob picked the guy who he thought would be best over the long term.

I don't like the Casey trade but it was a strategic move. Will it? The fuck if I know.
 
Vorsutus said:
Casey was a beter player but jones is younger. Jrob picked the guy who he thought would be best over the long term.

I don't like the Casey trade but it was a strategic move. Will it? The **** if I know.
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It was a terrible move. Just like not signing Brady for cheaper than tannenhill
 
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