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I want you all to apologize to Matt LaFluer. Mariota was close to the top of the league in completion percentage with a similar YPA working with a depleted receiving unit and issues on the line himself. He couldn't grip a football, Blaine Gabbert played far more than he ever should, yet we were 14th in 3rd down percentage. He generated more points with Gabbert ,tackles off of the street, and Taywan Taylor as his 2nd best receiving option vs Watt and that D line than we did yesterday.

There are issues with the line. But I think that Smith is clearly in over his head here. You can't build an offense based on what Mariota says that he is comfortable with, you build it based on tape study and seeing what he can't do. Game planning goes the same for the OL or whatever issues you'll have in the upcoming matchup. I like him and think that he could be good, but I think that we were too ambitious and confident that a flexible OC and improved skill players would be the answer to the offensive woes.

Terry Robiskie was no good, but at least he wasn't bashful about his play selection. And they could keep Mariota upright. I'd rather see stuffed runs than sacked QBs who are too rattled to hit open receivers. No matter what your personal opinions of our previous OCs are, I think that you can admit that they weren't the issue .
 
abc2330 said:
I want you all to apologize to Matt LaFluer. Mariota was close to the top of the league in completion percentage with a similar YPA working with a depleted receiving unit and issues on the line himself. He couldn't grip a football, Blaine Gabbert played far more than he ever should, yet we were 14th in 3rd down percentage. He generated more points with Gabbert ,tackles off of the street, and Taywan Taylor as his 2nd best receiving option vs Watt and that D line than we did yesterday.

There are issues with the line. But I think that Smith is clearly in over his head here. You can't build an offense based on what Mariota says that he is comfortable with, you build it based on tape study and seeing what he can't do. Game planning goes the same for the OL or whatever issues you'll have in the upcoming matchup. I like him and think that he could be good, but I think that we were too ambitious and confident that a flexible OC and improved skill players would be the answer to the offensive woes.

Terry Robiskie was no good, but at least he wasn't bashful about his play selection. And they could keep Mariota upright. I'd rather see stuffed runs than sacked QBs who are too rattled to hit open receivers. No matter what your personal opinions of our previous OCs are, I think that you can admit that they weren't the issue .
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Lefleur?
How about Munchak and like you mentioned Robiskie? Somehow that appears to be the best offense of this steady decline.
 
HurrayTitans! said:
Lefleur?
How about Munchak and like you mentioned Robiskie? Somehow that appears to be the best offense of this steady decline.
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Given what LaFluer had to work with, he did a good job. Robiskie was just the beneficiary of Mariota's anomaly season in which he was good.
 
abc2330 said:
Given what LaFluer had to work with, he did a good job. Robiskie was just the beneficiary of Mariota's anomaly season in which he was good.
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Or was his anomaly season because of how Robiskie did his thing?
I get it, 8 blockers with 2 targets can’t really work but that’s where the success was.
 
HurrayTitans! said:
Or was his anomaly season because of how Robiskie did his thing?
I get it, 8 blockers with 2 targets can’t really work but that’s where the success was.
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If you watch the highlights from that season, Mariota was threading the needle in a way that he hasn't in years and was borderline unstoppable in the red zone. He lost any confidence to make throws like that now, or defenses have figured him out
 
abc2330 said:
If you watch the highlights from that season, Mariota was threading the needle in a way that he hasn't in years and was borderline unstoppable in the red zone. He lost any confidence to make throws like that now, or defenses have figured him out
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I’m just messing around. I’m glad biscuit and munchak are gone. MM will be soon too and this era will be remembered for wasted opportunity and bad memories just like most of the last 15 years.
 
HurrayTitans! said:
I’m just messing around. I’m glad biscuit and munchak are gone. MM will be soon too and this era will be remembered for wasted opportunity and bad memories just like most of the last 15 years.
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I wish it wasn't true, but that does seem to be the current trajectory.
 
The last 3 OCs have done the exact same gameplans.. literally nothing about our play style has changed
 
Just the entire offensive philosophy of the Titans has been bad for years. There is overwhelming evidence that passing is the best way to score points in the NFL and has been for a while now, yet the Titans stubbornly insist they want to be a physical run-first team.
 
TorontoTitanFan said:
Just the entire offensive philosophy of the Titans has been bad for years. There is overwhelming evidence that passing is the best way to score points in the NFL and has been for a while now, yet the Titans stubbornly insist they want to be a physical run-first team.
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If we could pass, we would. There is no trust in Mariota to do so.
 
abc2330 said:
If we could pass, we would. There is no trust in Mariota to do so.
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You might be right, but then he should have been cut years ago. Paying him $20 million this year if you don't believe he's capable of running a modern NFL offense is inexcusable.
 
abc2330 said:
I want you all to apologize to Matt LaFluer. Mariota was close to the top of the league in completion percentage with a similar YPA working with a depleted receiving unit and issues on the line himself. He couldn't grip a football, Blaine Gabbert played far more than he ever should, yet we were 14th in 3rd down percentage. He generated more points with Gabbert ,tackles off of the street, and Taywan Taylor as his 2nd best receiving option vs Watt and that D line than we did yesterday.

There are issues with the line. But I think that Smith is clearly in over his head here. You can't build an offense based on what Mariota says that he is comfortable with, you build it based on tape study and seeing what he can't do. Game planning goes the same for the OL or whatever issues you'll have in the upcoming matchup. I like him and think that he could be good, but I think that we were too ambitious and confident that a flexible OC and improved skill players would be the answer to the offensive woes.

Terry Robiskie was no good, but at least he wasn't bashful about his play selection. And they could keep Mariota upright. I'd rather see stuffed runs than sacked QBs who are too rattled to hit open receivers. No matter what your personal opinions of our previous OCs are, I think that you can admit that they weren't the issue .
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FedEx boy is over his head, all he's doing is trying to recreate Mularkys offence. It's not working because MM is not great as a drop back QB. This is what perplexes me about coaches in the NFL, you draft a guy and then take what he does best and you go the opposite way, square peg round hole. Whiz drafts MM who played a lot out of shotgun in Oregon and says no we dont do that run these 7 step drop backs instead of designing a offence to take advantage of do what your player does best, and over the course of time sprinkle in the time under center as the young player learns.

Lamar Jackson from the Ravens, they let him do what he did well in college and run a lot never forced the issue of making him a under center passer, and over the off-season and training camp worked to refine his play and worked to add more time with him staying in the pocket and your seeing the benefits of that.

You could say the samething about the the OL, went from Russ Grim simplified man on man blocking scheme to this Zone blocking scheme, some of the players we had then were/are still here and again it's square peg round hole. My point being this has a lot to do with coaching. We need to just start using our players at what they do best or fine better position coach's to teach these new skills.
 
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This thread should be "OL Apology Thread" because there's not an OC in the league who can be successful when their OL is a sieve.
 
TitanJeff said:
This thread should be "OL Apology Thread" because there's not an OC in the league who can be successful when their OL is a sieve.
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3 sacks occurred in the average time or less it takes for the QB to get the ball out. I think it was 1 the week before, 1-2 the week before that. The issue was that mariota was so ineffective in the first half going 6/16 for 66 yard (1 sack allowed at this point) that the run was taken out of the equation and we were forced to drop back with 2 reserve OL against an elite D line. Most QBs take a lot of sacks in these situations. Brady was under duress after we took the game over to the point that they had to take him out. But 9 sacks is a little absurd.
 
I believe that Marcus is so worried about throwing an interception that he won't take any chances. He holds the ball way too long and shows he is unable to make a quick decision. We just watched a rookie quarter back with reflex decision making carve up our defensive secondary in spurts. As long as we can't pass down field we will see the same results; fall behind, 8 in the box, O line expected to withstand jailbreak after jailbreak of defenders, and our quarterback holding the ball too long and making bad decisions.
This will not get much better . . . It's in his head. Every team in the league knows how to beat the Titan's now. We are in for a long season. . . . . again .
 
Danimal said:
I believe that Marcus is so worried about throwing an interception that he won't take any chances. He holds the ball way too long and shows he is unable to make a quick decision.
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I've been saying the same exact thing. He has been "taking care of the football" the last few seasons. But it's come at the expense of crippling indecisiveness, more sacks, and an overall lack of positive offense.

If you aren't making actual plays in the passing game it doesn't really matter much that you aren't turning it over.
 
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