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seriously! no jokes and criticism ok. i am spreading the word to all titans fans! every freaking person that calls the fisher show tomarrow PLEASE, PLEASE, WHEN YOU ARE DOIN ASKING YOUR QUESTION, PROTEST TO HIM FOR VINCE TO START! i am gonna do it, cause i am calling tommorrw! i know it sounds crazy, but dang it, when vince was out there, i saw a fire and a passion on both sides of the ball that has been missing AND THAT I AM STARVING TO SEE, FOR TWO YEARS! TWO LONG, BLOOSY FILTHY YEARS! ready or not, vince is gonna have to start, collins sucks, billy sucks, and vince is gonna have to play through his mistakes! please guys, if there was ever a time i need yawl, its now! i want fisher to be so sick of us screaming for vince that he puts vince in! vince deserves his shot!
 
You have to remember we were playing the Jets. They probably did not know what to expect when he was in so there play calls was to watch the run not look pass. And that duck at the end for the INT was no better then a 3 flies up pass. We pull that against a better D and we are going to look silly.

I do not want Collins but we do not need to give up multiple INTs because the guy is still wet. Let him learn and do not put pressure on him and he will develop. Throw him to the dogs and we will be hurting.

He looked good but give it more time. Starting against SD's D would be a bad move IMO.
 
You better not tell the call screener that your calling to protest to fish about VY not playing or you probably won't get on. You better lie and then let him have it !!!:chuck:
 
VY is going throw a ton of INT's in this league with those "paper airplane" jump balls that he's been throwing downfield. They must make some adjustments there no doubt.. Aside from that his play is just so unorthodox he's gonna throw some D's for a loop no doubt.. We will see Vince soon, count on it...
 
whether you petition fisher or not, he's not going to play vince if he doesnt think it's the right thing to do. he was under a lot pressure to play mcnair early, but he didnt give in.

maybe this time it will be different because some think he is on the hot seat, but dont think it will happen because some fans say they want to see vince.
 
Sorry; can't do that to Fisher on his own show. We're facing stronger opposition than the Jets over the next few weeks, and Young doesn't need to start until he understands more of the play book. Even Volek said that fans don't see what the QBs see; when I learn enough about football to tell a coach how to do his job, I'll send in a resume!
 
Throw vince in so he can get hurt?? no way, let him in for a few series to continue getting his game experience and not make him try to do something that isn't there yet, Fisher Knows that and it doesn't matter what is said on his show,IMO I dont think it's worth the risk to play him he gets injured we're screwed... he'll come along but you have to get it the time he needs to get to be ready
 
kimberly said:
seriously! no jokes and criticism ok. i am spreading the word to all titans fans! every freaking person that calls the fisher show tomarrow PLEASE, PLEASE, WHEN YOU ARE DOIN ASKING YOUR QUESTION, PROTEST TO HIM FOR VINCE TO START! i am gonna do it, cause i am calling tommorrw! i know it sounds crazy, but dang it, when vince was out there, i saw a fire and a passion on both sides of the ball that has been missing AND THAT I AM STARVING TO SEE, FOR TWO YEARS! TWO LONG, BLOOSY FILTHY YEARS! ready or not, vince is gonna have to start, collins sucks, billy sucks, and vince is gonna have to play through his mistakes! please guys, if there was ever a time i need yawl, its now! i want fisher to be so sick of us screaming for vince that he puts vince in! vince deserves his shot!
kimberly, that is the most retarded thing in the world I've ever heard. Vince needs to do his spot work. I think the fumes from the heaps of bs that that fester in the hole of ignorance otherwise known as the tomb have affected your judgement. Starting Vince Young right now would be the dumbest thing Fisher could do. Go sell that kool-aid :koolaid: elsewhere because it looks like Jim Jones was mixing it up for 'ya. :brow:

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EZpickin said:
Throw vince in so he can get hurt??
if you're worried about vince getting hurt, then collins and volek are at much greater risk from injury...given the same hit volek and collins will get hurt before vince will...
 
bigtitan53279 said:
vince can get hurt walking across the street. whether he plays now, or week ten he can get hurt.
that is true but you must agree that the probability of injury will decrease as he gains some experience.
also, I bet the hope is among the coaches that the line will improve and we will have a better line all around next year.
 
SEC 330 BIPOLAR said:
that is true but you must agree that the probability of injury will decrease as he gains some experience.
also, I bet the hope is that the line will improve and we will have a better line all around next year.
how does he gain experience by not playing though?

people's main argument as to why collins should start ahead of volek is his experince. well, if you count experience as sitting on the bench and watching an nfl caliber qb, then volek is very experienced. if you count experience as playing time, then vince is almost as good an option as volek.
 
bigtitan53279 said:
vince can get hurt walking across the street. whether he plays now, or week ten he can get hurt.
agreed, The point was he's not ready... if it comes down to someone taking a blindside hit that takes a QB out I'd rather it not be Vince who is the future, let him get the game experience to read the D's, make the plays and get his timing with our recievers.. as of now IMO Collins has the experience level, would Volek be better I dunno, we all hoped he would've been but Obviously Fisher has decided he's not..
 
EZpickin said:
if it comes down to someone taking a blindside hit that takes a QB out I'd rather it not be Vince who is the future,
taking a blindside hit doesnt have any barring on whether a qb is experienced or not. thats on the o-line. volek still gets killed back there because he's immobile and holds on to the ball too long. same with collins. i dont think that has anything to do with experience.

EZpickin said:
let him get the game experience to read the D's
he can't get game experience if he doesnt play.


EZpickin said:
get his timing with our recievers..
that's what mini camp and training camp are for.
 
zackmann said:
if you're worried about vince getting hurt, then collins and volek are at much greater risk from injury...given the same hit volek and collins will get hurt before vince will...
maybe those guys won't hold the ball as long... or scramble because they can't seem to get the reads down quick enough. I know Vince is a stud... but just because Volek is a wimp next to Young doesn't mean he wouldn't get injured, I know... I don't even look at Volek as being on this team anymore. He is gone as soon as we can make a deal. anyhow, look at Peyton Manning... why does he never get hurt? I know he is the same size as Vince... put he get the ball gone... zoom! Once Vince looks like a gunslinger at BSP they will try him at LP.

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bigtitan53279 said:
whether you petition fisher or not, he's not going to play vince if he doesnt think it's the right thing to do. he was under a lot pressure to play mcnair early, but he didnt give in.

maybe this time it will be different because some think he is on the hot seat, but dont think it will happen because some fans say they want to see vince.

Yes, and he stunted McNair for it.

I think on the flipside of this, because the Titans now will not wait 2 years to play Vince while we play Collins, and frankly, half the season could be too much as well.

It is for this reason: the players came to play, and if you let rusty 'ol Collins play, the game which is important to players and fans becomes like a practice to Fisher and Collins. Fisher won't realize this before it's too late, mainly because as head coach, his pride won't let him be dictated to by players and fans, assistants, etc.

This could be one time when Bud's intervention is actually helpful.
 
bigtitan53279 said:
taking a blindside hit doesnt have any barring on whether a qb is experienced or not. thats on the o-line. volek still gets killed back there because he's immobile and holds on to the ball too long. same with collins. i dont think that has anything to do with experience.

I disagree, having experience does give a QB the knowledge of when to get out of the pocket, step up or get rid of the ball. Not having the experience is getting wrapped up on a sack and flinging the ball over your shoulder trying to make something happen(IE preseason week 1) The more D he watches he'll learn from to make quick reads, he is a stud and there is no doubt in my mind he will make plays.

he can't get game experience if he doesnt play.
true, and he is getting experience a few series at a time..

Dont get me wrong I want VY to start as much as the next guy, I just want to see him succeed and not be set up for failure..
In all honesty all this is my look on it, I dont know whats right..
either way it's all speculation and hindsight is always 20/20
 
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