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That’s a shame. He hasn’t earned the money he would get with the 5th year option.
If he walks (not resigns for cheaper), no other way to see that pick but as a bust.
I don’t think the lack of players sticking with their team redefines a bust, it only shows that more players can be considered a bust.I don't agree at all, but I use "bust" a lot more sparingly. I mean, only 12 first rounders from 2016 are on their original team. Only 7 first rounders from 2015 are on their original team.
I don’t think the lack of players sticking with their team redefines a bust, it only shows that more players can be considered a bust.
a #5 pick that can’t play well enough to earn a 5th year option is less than the value of what should be expected from a #5 pick. That’s a bust.
Not making the argument of biggest ever or even biggest in Titans history. Just not enough out of him to have justified the #5 pick spent.
I see a trade as different than a release. Despite possibly underperforming, they still got more value in return based off that performance.Look at 5th pick history - Jalen Ramsey, Brandon Scherff, Khalil Mack, Ziggy Ansah, Justin Blackmon (bust), Patrick Peterson, Eric Berry, Mark Sanchez (best), Glenn Dorsey (bust), Levi Brown (bust), AJ Hawk (bust), Carnell Williams (bust)
So out of the last 15 years, you've gotten 2 or 3 guys that are something their team was able to build around and 2 more guys that a team has gotten value in trading. And Ziggy Ansah put up good production for a couple of years.
Are you implying most 5th picks have been busts? And you consider AJ Hawk a bust??? For real?Look at 5th pick history - Jalen Ramsey, Brandon Scherff, Khalil Mack, Ziggy Ansah, Justin Blackmon (bust), Patrick Peterson, Eric Berry, Mark Sanchez (best), Glenn Dorsey (bust), Levi Brown (bust), AJ Hawk (bust), Carnell Williams (bust)
So out of the last 15 years, you've gotten 2 or 3 guys that are something their team was able to build around and 2 more guys that a team has gotten value in trading. And Ziggy Ansah put up good production for a couple of years.
Sanchez was the best!Look at 5th pick history - Jalen Ramsey, Brandon Scherff, Khalil Mack, Ziggy Ansah, Justin Blackmon (bust), Patrick Peterson, Eric Berry, Mark Sanchez (best), Glenn Dorsey (bust), Levi Brown (bust), AJ Hawk (bust), Carnell Williams (bust)
So out of the last 15 years, you've gotten 2 or 3 guys that are something their team was able to build around and 2 more guys that a team has gotten value in trading. And Ziggy Ansah put up good production for a couple of years.
Are you implying most 5th picks have been busts? And you consider AJ Hawk a bust??? For real?
I like Corey. Hope we sign him long term to a fair WR2 deal. I'm curious to see what Will Fuller gets signed for. If Davis wasn't picked in the first round, this wouldn't be a conversation. But he was, and hasn't lived up to the draft slot unfortunately.
Per Davenport, most 5th picks in the draft have been worth the 5th year options.
You’re correct in the term bust being subjective.I don't necessarily think any of them are busts. But if Corey Davis, a quality starter from year 1, is a bust, then 50-80% of 1st rounders and even 5th picks are probably busts and your expectations are out of line.
I don’t think the lack of players sticking with their team redefines a bust, it only shows that more players can be considered a bust.
a #5 pick that can’t play well enough to earn a 5th year option is less than the value of what should be expected from a #5 pick. That’s a bust.
Not making the argument of biggest ever or even biggest in Titans history. Just not enough out of him to have justified the #5 pick spent.